PPP - Restarting! See the other thread!

[Aezeal]

ehm nice solutions but I'd just prefer if everything worked as it should.. no offence KO

anyway if you think pplz should not try to take best setup for a MP game to try to win you are living in a fantasy world.. in SP you can RP in MP you spend half a year on a game so some results would be nice AND that means going into it as strong as you can.

my point.. your view of playing the game is not right

[Kristoffer O]

Of course it is right

[DrPraetorious]

Here's how it works:
* If you "Save and Exit", the game engine makes a .2h file for you.
* If you then log onto the server, it'll automatically send any .2h files you have.

It's the second behavior that sometimes trips people up; you generally get used to it (not connecting to the server until you're really done with your turn,) but it causes enough headaches, especially for new players, that it may not be ideal.

I'm going to be out of town Sat and Sun. Given the timer, I might not even miss a turn, but could we have an extension just in case? Now that my war has heated up I don't want to leave my armies hanging.

[Foodstamp]

Really the changes that need to be made to the other pretenders are not hundreds of changes. The human mage types should be geared better towards being a rainbow/bless chasis, and some of the Titan/Monster types should have their costs or cost to add a new path reduced.

As it stands now, if you want a decent bless, it is more cost effective to take the supercombatant who has the starting paths for the bless than it is to take a simple mage.

If you try to build both equally, the supercombatant comes out ahead in dominion and scales compared to the mage all other things being equal, making choosing a mage pretender pointless except for rainbows, which in themselves can often be inefficient.

Finally, alot of the pretenders are redundant. There is no reason to take them often times because there is a similar pretender who has more advantages.

[Aezeal]

maybe the special abilities on pretenders should be more diverse and powerfull so decision is not just made on how you get certain paths you want cheapest.

[Micah]

I find it hard NOT to power game in a setting in which you're trying to banish every other nation and their pretender gods to hell for the rest of eternity, kind of inspires a no-holds-barred attitude ;-)

[DrPraetorious]

Personally, I would give all of the rainbow pretenders #magicboost 1 for all paths, and an (additional or expanded) utility ability.

This means that rainbow pretenders are flat-out-superior as *spellcasters*, but their blessing would cost the same as any other chassis. At present, there isn't a lot of call for spellcaster pretenders, but I think this would change (at least for certain nations with a strong military but minimal dependence on sacreds) if spellcasting on rainbow pretenders were simply a better deal.

For the titans, I'd say that every one should have a potent, and useful, #onebattlespell. I put together a list at one point which QM is going over.

All of this is a bit drastic for vanilla, though. The presence of the modding engine means we can test changes like this out and see what happens.

[Aezeal]

Micah.. that is excatly what I meant to say.. and why KO's vision doesn't fit the game he created

[Aezeal]

OK quit good luck you all pplz, but 3 on 1 is a bit much for my small nation.. long term planning on taking me out since that ghostking pretender doesn't live in my neighbourhood.

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