Water queens may be way overpowered.

[triqui]

Argitoth said:
Edit: Better question, what would it take to prove the water queen is overpowered? What situation should the water queen, in a logical or thematic sense, lose?

I think that just becouse your cheap fire mage spamming living fire lost against a heavily tailored WQ does not mean that WQ is overpowered. Only that your cheap mage was not well suited for that particular task.

[NTJedi]

The water queens are good, but not overpowered.

Argitoth if are curious about which SCs are considered the most powerful start a poll listing the most common SCs.

Here's a small list

Wraith Lord
Elemental Royals
Tartarian
Tarrasque
Ice ArchDemons
Fire ArchDemons
DemonLords
etc; etc; etc;


Or review results from the last SC Arena competition where many community members participated. Not a single entry used a water queen.

[Wrana]

To NT Jedi:
Yes, and any Tartarian kind should ne reviewed individually. +manifold national ones...
And could you provide link on the said Arena?
I agree that Water Queen isn't among the better elemental royalty - even in SP I only used them to conquer seas.

[VedalkenBear]

I suggest that we create a water ritual that allows 'underwater teleportation'. Move from one underwater province to another. That should definitely help the Water Queen.

[Tuidjy]

Argitoth. That particular water queen can be easily killed by a fire mage
casting Heat from Hell, teamed with a fire immune bane lord (for example) who
does enough damage to get through the regeneration. By the way, she is not
particularly well equiped - one can do MUCH better.

But in general, many players rank Elemental Royalty like this:

Air Queens
Earth Kings
Water Queens
Fire Kings

While in general I agree with the above, in many cases, some of the lower rated
royalties are better suited to a task. But as a rule, to kill a SC, you tailor
an attack for him. Then your enemy teleports his counter, and probably win.
There is NOTHING that is unbeatble, except for Mist of Deception cast by a
defender who retreats on the next turn.

[vfb]

Even MoD + retreat is beatable, by assassination.

[Foodstamp]

vfb said:
Even MoD + retreat is beatable, by assassination.

Blasphemy!