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[thejeff]

What do the brands actually do? From the description I'd assumed it was normal (or AP) damage to the unit actually hit, and then fire or cold affect to the whole area. I'd originally assumed this was a minor affect, like chance of catching on fire or freezing, but it's actually the main damage.

Is the cold/fire damage the same as the weapon damage? Strength based? That makes little sense to me, but seems to match actual results.

[Endoperez]

They use the weapon effects "small area fire", "small are frost" etc. I don't know how powerful those effects are.

[Jazzepi]

Endoperez said:
They use the weapon effects "small area fire", "small are frost" etc. I don't know how powerful those effects are.

My general impression has been that the AoE effect off of those weapons does somewhere in the range of 6-7 damage. Enough to kill a normal human solider, and therefore clear an a single square with three of them in it, with two attacks from the AoE weapon.

Jazzepi

[Gregstrom]

From the db:

Small Area Fire is a 14 point AP attack. Small Area Cold is a 12 point AP attack.

Interestingly, Ember's Small Area Frost and Fire is a 15 point AP attack with no cold tag, followed by Small Area Fire.
Is this a db error or a bug?

[Edi]

Gregstrom said:
From the db:

Small Area Fire is a 14 point AP attack. Small Area Cold is a 12 point AP attack.

Interestingly, Ember's Small Area Frost and Fire is a 15 point AP attack with no cold tag, followed by Small Area Fire.
Is this a db error or a bug?

DB error, it should have the cold tag. Thanks for catching that.

[Gregstrom]

My pleasure :-)

[chrispedersen]

just recall that there are several small area fires - and without investigating them carefully (for other weapons or effects) it may not be the ap14 version.

[Gregstrom]

The db disagrees with you there - there may be different weapons with the effect, but they appear to use the same effect each time.

[Edi]

14 ap fire and 12 ap cold respectively. So fire brand is clearly superior of the two. AP+AP damage, with the second AP being higher than the frost equivalent and less units that are immune to it.

[Tuidjy]

I'm moderately sure that the damage is a constant value that does not depend
on the commander's strength. For some reason, Firebrand seems way more effective
against troops with neither resistance, which makes me believe that the fire damage
is armour piercing while the cold is not.