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April 29th, 2008, 03:36 AM
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Re: Got it!
The problem as I see it one one of a lack of context. The "offending" ads showed a sexily dressed woman with the text of "I want my dominions 3". Now We all know what is meant by that but We are in the know. Imagining it from an outsiders position they wouldn't have much of a clue what was being sold although on this forum they would have to presume it was a game. "Dominating women? What?"
This imho is one of the main things which differentiates this ad from other ads which use sex as a selling point. Beer ads at least show ladies drinking beer/being around guys drinking beer. Car ads are almost always accompanied by well, a car.
The ATF ad was used as an example of "Why don't you have a problem with this one then?!" and again I believe it is context. Foxy lady but she is in a helmet and holding a firearm. While I highly doubt your units in that game resemble buxom blondes it at least implies that the game is combat oriented. (Sorry, I haven't played ATF, maybe it does have buxom units!)
Remember, sex sells, but stay away from implying you are selling sex. I'd bet that if you had the same model slinkily sitting by a computer you'd have gotten horny monkey hoots of approval
There is also, for me at least, a bit of a disconnect selling dom 3 with sexiness as the game has uhh no sexual references whatsoever. (Unless you are playing Pangea in certain eras, sexy ladies don't come up in dom 3. At all.)
A bit of a perhaps weak argument for being baited and switched but whatever just trying to think up some viewpoints.
All a long-winded way of saying that it just doesn't jive with the game. Oh and you folks frothing negatively about this should take a step back, drink a beer or suck on a popsicle and relax as it really isn't an earth-shattering thing.
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April 29th, 2008, 04:28 AM
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Re: Got it!
You know how much a waste of time it is to tell everyone on an internet forum how you dislike this or that? Tell everyone what your morale opinion is? It's a damn waste of time, lock this thread so people can get a life.
For freaken sake, this is an internet forum, you don't know anyone you are talking to, yet some of you want to waste time getting angry, arguing...
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April 29th, 2008, 04:44 AM
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Re: Got it!
It wasn't totally pointless as we now got a frisky hunk to look at. That is what we wanted, right? Right?!
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April 29th, 2008, 04:48 AM
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Re: Got it!
I liked the old ad better.
I agree with argitoth though, even if I have a slightly different point of view. I find the discussion and endless trolling about things that don't even register as trivial matters for most people rather funny.
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April 29th, 2008, 07:26 AM
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Re: Got it!
Quote:
kasnavada said:
I liked the old ad better.
I agree with argitoth though, even if I have a slightly different point of view. I find the discussion and endless trolling about things that don't even register as trivial matters for most people rather funny.
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Sorry, fully clothed women were too heteroerotic for you; the old ads are gone forever!
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April 29th, 2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Got it!
Ehehe, these ads sure are causing a lot of conflict. Thank god we finally have gender neutrality in the ad-world!
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April 29th, 2008, 09:45 AM
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Re: Got it!
I suggest we all simply stop posting about this. It's become a sour topic. I remain disappointed by Shrapnel's responses, but think it really isn't important enough to let it damage our enjoyment of the game or the forum. After all, Shrapnel aren't really that important to the game as far as we're concerned - they ship the game to us and give us the forum, and that's it. KO and JK are the important people, and they remain legends in their own time.
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April 29th, 2008, 10:00 AM
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Re: Got it!
I agree with Llama. I have expressed myself on this topic and it isn't worth me arguing about it further.
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May 4th, 2008, 03:45 PM
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The travesty has ended
Well, it looks like Shrapnel has pulled all of the new ads but the "Kill Bill" one now. Thank you for that. This year's April was a really long one, huh?
I didn't get the time to voice my criticism on the ads appropriately, but you know my position on this. My biggest problem was that it was just a lame way of advertising. Like many others already said, the ads didn't have anything to do with the product and they just looked plain unprofessional. The girls were certainly hot, but that "I want my Dom 3" line looked as if some teenager just created his first banner for his Myspace page. It certainly was not in line with the usual quality of your other ads.
Now all that remains is the samurai one, and that's fine by me - at least she is holding a sword! Honestly, chain mail bikini's are cool in my book. As long as an ad for a fantasy themed strategy game like Dom3 looks anything like it, okay.
Edit: Oh no, wait. Smiling surfer dude is still with us. 
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