plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

[LeSquide]

I'm a fan of both EU and (unsurprisingly) Dominions 3. Both games have their high points...and their flaws.

The problem with making EU (or any linear game set in the real world) 'historical' is that once the player takes control and a random element is introduced into the equation (much less AI), anything that happens is going to be a-historical. And you know what? That's a -good- thing.

It's boring when the game does things to cleave closely to the timeline; the German example's a good one. With proper military force and political backing, you shouldn't need the Treaty of Westphalia to carve up Germany like a turkey.

I actually like the way that the oft-maligned Total War games do things; events are randomized across a reasonably plausible period, rather than set in stone. Given the general player-driven deviations, I think that gives a far more genuine experience than trying to hard code in 'historical' events happening.

[Saulot]

While I never played the original EU games, I tried EU Rome, and after examining several of the bigger mods, made my own mod to the game, and the battles and gameplay are now fair to decent. However, it's still somewhat dry. Which is a shame, because HOI2 with it's expansions (and some mods) was very enjoyable.

I suspect EU Rome will require a good three or four patches, an expansion, and maybe a year of modding to reach good/great.

Coincidentally, Rome Total War, required the same exact thing.

I miss the days when finished products were released on day one, and major bugs the exception. Now the reverse is true.

[Aezeal]

I kinda like EU: rome though.. it's not really possible to win with a small nation though

as a one city state in small asia I first conquered the remains of iberia and armenia I got 4 other provinces there.

Then I took on egypt while they where at war with carthage and that large nation in asia (Seulucid)..

so when I have conquered half of egypts assets in turkey the other nations peace with egypt so I'm against egypt alone (when I declared egypt was about 20+ provinces)

So at a time I manage to take all his 8 provinces in turkey and cyprus.. a battle score of 58... the game says he should take the loss of a province or his stability will drop... and it did... 3x till -3 but refuses to surrender even a friggin single province.. and then it's a war of attrition and he sends all his armies.. about 3 times as much towards me and.... (I kept reloading here but no options)

The AI is right of course.. he WILL win in the end.. but WTF no way to win ANY province of a large nation like this..

ALSO why didn't any large nation want to ally with me at the start (I'm talkin a 180 or 190 positive relation here)

[calmon]

You're a small nation and wonder why no big nation ally with you? You know that every war you declare, your ally has at least an ethical bound to also declare war. Its just plain stupid to do that. Try to ally with small ones.

And it should be very hard to manage a 1 provincer to something like victory. And from my site you also should need very much luck to do this. I'm tired to only play the last asian bush tribe to get some challenge.

If you known to play the paradox titles and are more experienced you notice how easy the game is.