Aquarium - Started - FIGHT!

Bananadine · #1 May 6th, 2008, 01:08 PM

VP meaning provinces that provide points? I'm playing a game with one province that everybody fights over, and I'm pretty tired of it... but presumably there are various ways to do it, other than that.

I would totally play to the end in a straight battle without VP. I mean if I survived that long.

johnarryn · #2 May 6th, 2008, 01:21 PM

Yeah, im not so huge on the VP's, though I suppose we can use em if alot of other people like em.

Zenzei · #3 May 6th, 2008, 01:38 PM

Yes, by VP I meant Victory Points of which you need to control a certain amount in order to win the game.
I have played in games which had multiple VPs on the map and I can say from my experience that VP games are more interesting than normal ones because there's a tangible objective for the game.

If Aezeal decides to go with VPs, I recommend the following setup regarding the amount of VPs:
1) 2x the number of players. Randomly assigned on the map and need to control ~40% of the VPs in order to win.

or

2) One VP in each capital and none in the regular provinces. 40% of the VPs required for the win.

Bananadine: I can certainly see several reasons for a player getting frustrated in game that has only one VP on the map but those reasons are indeed due to game settings rather than VPs in general as a victory condition.

sum1lost · #4 May 6th, 2008, 02:53 PM

Id rather not play VPs, if its alright. We can, but it skews gameplay a bit.

parcelt · #5 May 6th, 2008, 02:53 PM

Changed my mind again (cant resist): I'll play as Ulm

Cicadian · #6 May 6th, 2008, 03:13 PM

If we start after the new patch, I'll be Ashgod, the new MA nation (I have no idea what it'll be like!).

If not I'll take Ctis.

Executor · #7 May 6th, 2008, 03:17 PM

I think option number 2 is much better, there will be more wars this way for sure, have you decided on a map, or are we using a random map?
Personally I'd prefer a random map, but as long as you set up a reasonable number of provinces between capitols, and are we using any particular mod?

Zenzei · #8 May 6th, 2008, 03:26 PM

sum1lost: In what way do you feel VPs skew the game?

Maybe we should have a general vote regarding the victory condition or lack of it. I vote yes for VPs, if it wasn't clear already.

johnarryn · #9 May 6th, 2008, 04:23 PM

I also feel as though 40% VP's is a bit low... you can essentially have a couple big players who never even have to fight before one of them wins. Make it like 55% or something.

Aezeal · #10 May 6th, 2008, 05:31 PM

Zenzei and Miagi are in, but we should indeed play for VP, but in capitols, I'll go for exactly half of capitols the map. So you need either to be stronger than the rest without needing to take the last single prov if a bastard won't surrender. And if there end up 2 player having nearly half then a long battle will be avoided by just out maneuvering the opponent