DangerPudding - random nations EA game (finished)

[Tuidjy]

The giants have absolutely no interest in raiding Fomoria, or trying to take over
their castles. We are, and remain peaceful. If you consider yourself chastised,
and apologize for your aggression and your mistreatment of our peasantry, we will
gladly sign a peace treaty.

After all, we still have to kick R'lyeh out of the water... we cannot allow these
hot drink lovers easy access to the materials for their abominable practices.

And frankly, you underestimate your alliance. Tien Chi just killed one of our
best equipped commanders, and captured the Astral Boots and the Unquenched Sword.
Well, that happened because he did not manage to kill off the hundreds of
unconscious enemies before union rules just popped him into inexistance, but hey,
he's still dead, and the artifacts gone.

As for R'lyeh, they have been fighting us. He did attack us everywhere he could,
and is besieging a castle of ours as we speak. It's just that his Pretender
got turned into sushi, and our Pretender borrowed his castle cracking troops for a
pet project of his, but forgot that most could not breath air.

[Corwin]

Tuidjy said:
The giants have absolutely no interest in raiding Fomoria, or trying to take over
their castles. We are, and remain peaceful. If you consider yourself chastised,
and apologize for your aggression and your mistreatment of our peasantry, we will
gladly sign a peace treaty.

After all, we still have to kick R'lyeh out of the water... we cannot allow these
hot drink lovers easy access to the materials for their abominable practices.

And frankly, you underestimate your alliance. Tien Chi just killed one of our
best equipped commanders, and captured the Astral Boots and the Unquenched Sword.
Well, that happened because he did not manage to kill off the hundreds of
unconscious enemies before union rules just popped him into inexistance, but hey,
he's still dead, and the artifacts gone.

As for R'lyeh, they have been fighting us. He did attack us everywhere he could,
and is besieging a castle of ours as we speak. It's just that his Pretender
got turned into sushi, and our Pretender borrowed his castle cracking troops for a
pet project of his, but forgot that most could not breath air.

I didn't see any of these battles with R'leh and Tien Chi, but I will take your word for it. But no many provinces have changed hands in these wars - in fact I think you were gaining provinces on the other fronts.

As for appologizing for my agression - you can't be serious. The recent experience just proves that I was absolutely right to attack you, and so are Tien Chi and R'lyeh. If anything I regret that I haven't done it earlier - but with Sauromatian AI chewing my *** I was not really in position to fight 2 fronts war earlier. I also should not buy your clever propoganda about how weak you are, and agree not to cast population killing spells. Blanketing your entire territory with Black Plagues would go some way toward undercutting your income. Although most likely it would not make much difference at that point - with Forge and mountains of clams/stones you are on gem economy anyway.


All in all, you were simply too strong and too dangerious to be left alone, and we were too late to stop you. And even in its Dom3 version, Forge is one of the two "I won" Global, especially in the long game on the large map, such as ours. Whoever casts this spell should expect to take on the world and win. (just like you did)

[Drake49]

I would be willing to sub for you....

primarily because I want to see what another player uses for end-game. I have created my own end-game wierdness that seems to be doing well in the only end-game I am in. I'm not talking Alexander, I have one other MP game that is on Turn 86 and I have a decent chance of winning, despite one major desperate attempt to sabotage myself at the last second.

Anyway, I am familiar with basic end-game tactics, Ghost Riders, Send Horror, Tartinians, Forge(though it is my ally, and my primary source of confidence in the other game), Wish, teleport/stealth raiders, and the extreme difficulty of castle storming.

I would also be willing to temp for a week and give it back to you.

[Tuidjy]

Drake49, I want to warn you that I will answer any use of Mists of Deception
by starting to use every cheat or exploit I know. If you would like an
explanation I'd gladly give it to you.

Otherwise, welcome to the war. I think that Corwin's lack of time is a lot more
to blame for his bleak view of the situation than what has actually been
happening in the war. I am hurting a lot, especially now that Tien Chi's
main force has arrived on the scene, and is cracking castles in one turn.

If you need the turn delayed in order to get a better picture of the situation,
and renew Fomoria's diplomatic relations, I'm OK with it. Hell, if you want to
talk peace, I'm fine with it too, but I think that Corwin has managed to
convince everyone that I am so damn powerful I need to be stopped.

In any case, I would like to sign an agreement with you not to do anything that
kills population. I like to think that mine is a just and benevolent rule, and
that the civilian population has a hard enough time without being killed off by
various spells, pillaging, overtaxing, or patrolling.

[Corwin]

I disagree, I stand by my assesment. If there would be any real hope of victory for Fomoria in this war I would continue playing, despite my severe time crunch. But I have been playing Dom MP for 3 years, and I know hopeless situation when I see it.

If I would take over all nations in the game and would have unlimited time, maybe (and this is big "maybe") the would be a small chance of stalemate (For example if other nations have strong astral reserves/clams hordes, perhaps I would manage to cast Arcane Nexus so strong that even Giants will all their clams would not be able to dispell it quickly).

But anything less then perfect coordination of all remaining nations and total dedication of all resources against Giants, and they will win - I have no doubts whatsoever.

Anyway, it's up to you guys to decide on the future of this game, I am just sharing my vision fo the situation. Let me know what you want to do.

Good game everyone!

[DrPraetorious]

I'm inclined to agree. My forces were basically spent (I had nothing left but freespawn, and barely enough income to pay my mages.)

This game was a very poor showing on my part. Having the forge gobbled by Niefelheim, while not surprising (of course he has a huge earth God), was a major ouch.

I also made a lot of mistakes, mainly not expanding fast enough or in enough directions.

But well played Niefelheim!

[Tuidjy]

Well, I prepared my turn, and it took me exactly 4 hours... If you guys think that
you should surrender, I will be happy to accept. I do not think that you should,
I do not know why my enemies are so distraught, but hey, this game is getting
to be quite demanding. I have six castles that could be stormed this turn, I
am being pressed by armies comprised by 800, mostly summoned, troops and
hundreds (no exaggeration) of mages... And my attention is the one being most spread out.