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May 10th, 2008, 12:14 AM
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Re: Random items not random?
So what people are saying is that they have no idea how random items are picked, despite my proof that its not random.
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May 10th, 2008, 12:50 AM
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Re: Random items not random?
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Six Crowns of Command, four Swords of Sharpness, five Rings of Frost, and four other assorted items.
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How is that proof that the items are not random? Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, but from the prior posts, it sounds pretty random to me. If you are referring to the tendency for lower level items to be more common or weighted higher than artifacts, that does not mean that it is not random.
Sorry if I missed your point.
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May 10th, 2008, 03:01 AM
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Re: Random items not random?
I sometimes get really nice items. In MP I got clams, that soul contract that gives devils, armour of souls etc.
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May 10th, 2008, 03:03 AM
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Re: Random items not random?
They are random. At least when I enter them in the code. I just write 'magicitem,1', or magicitem,2' or 'magicitem,3'. 1 means most likely a trinket. 2 a more powerful item, etc.
I never get the same item. In my current MP I've gotten 4 items, all trinkets, none the same.
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May 10th, 2008, 03:35 AM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Random items not random?
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Kristoffer O said:
They are random. At least when I enter them in the code. I just write 'magicitem,1', or magicitem,2' or 'magicitem,3'. 1 means most likely a trinket. 2 a more powerful item, etc.
I never get the same item. In my current MP I've gotten 4 items, all trinkets, none the same.
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That's super wierd. So my test game is just a statistical anomoly?
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May 10th, 2008, 04:08 AM
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National Security Advisor
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Re: Random items not random?
Yes. What are the odds of getting, out of a potential pool of 560 random sites, 3x Enchanted Tower in one province? Yet I saw that happen just the other day when Kaljamaha and I were playing a co-op game. Had 3 arenas in one game, though that was way back in DomPPP.
Statistical anomalies happen sometimes, there's a reason why the concept of data outliers is fairly important in science. One instance does not a proof make. It could be that in a specific game, the random seed for some reason gets "stuck" so you would get more than one of the same item. But I don't think so.
If there are three categories of items available, with a specific event giving a higher probability for one class of item, getting several instances of that event would reduce the pool of potential choices, lowering the odds of getting the same item twice. Got two or three berserker pelts myself in one game, for example.
So I'd say it's random, all right.
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May 10th, 2008, 02:59 PM
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Three arenas
I almost ALWAYS get arenas... more than 6-7 in some games.
three is nothing...
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May 10th, 2008, 03:40 PM
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Re: Three arenas
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chrispedersen said:
I almost ALWAYS get arenas... more than 6-7 in some games.
three is nothing...
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It's obvious Edi meant he had three arenas in the same province.
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