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		I think it's very thematic.   
 
Consider the case of the king who, under mortal assault from a rival nation, sends his only son, the child prince, into hiding with a trusted servant.  With him he took three magic items from the treasury... 
 
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		the pretender fighting for godhood sends his... son?... into hiding with three items that he could have used in his fight for godhood? 
 
and who are we talking about here?  i mean is ry'leh going to send any of the lesser beings their stuff?  and I can't picture the mind-flayer child prince. 
 
you forget that we are not feudal lards, but are in fact pretenders who want nothing more than to see every other one dead.  The cost for not doing so is high.  Alliances are in fact only temporary mutually beneficial agreements that we kill other people before we kill each other.  there is never any real loyalty. 
 
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"Dear beloved 'ally'.  It seems the enemy have overrun my empire and with it my hopes of becoming god.  please accept my only child.  I'm sending a diaper bag full of death gems and a handful of magic items with him" 
 
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you forget that we are not feudal lards, but are in fact pretenders who want nothing more than to see every other one dead.  The cost for not doing so is high.  Alliances are in fact only temporary mutually beneficial agreements that we kill other people before we kill each other.  there is never any real loyalty.  
			
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 Nobody is saying there is loyalty. What there is, however, is a desire to spite your enemies, even from beyond the grave. How on earth is that unthematic?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		if you are the true pretender (which in playing the game you say you are) then why not 'spite' them yourself?  If you give up and give stuff away to someone else, your only admitting you were a cop out from the start.  Never good enough to be god, someone else had to do it for you.  What real pretender is going to say that? 
 
additionally, any dominion not your dominion is enemy dominion.  you can only possibly give stuff to an enemy.  no matter who you give stuff to, it is helping to spread a faith not your own.  what true pretender would stand for that?  You are here to spread your faith and to become god!  not whimper out and roll your stuff over to someone else. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		If you truly want to spite them you'll both go down fighting and give all your assets away as you die.  At a certain point in a losing war assets will be rendered obsolete or pretty much useless, like earth gems when you can't get any more earth mages.  Alchemetizing them away into gold or something else dilutes their potency and depending on the nature of the war being fought might do very little to harm your opponent, whereas they might possibly help someone else immensely.   
 
I view it as perfectly thematic to try and do maximum damage to the person killing you, through whatever legal game mechanics are available.  Why not reward the neighbor that kept his word in the process? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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if you are the true pretender (which in playing the game you say you are) then why not 'spite' them yourself?  If you give up and give stuff away to someone else, your only admitting you were a cop out from the start.  Never good enough to be god, someone else had to do it for you.  What real pretender is going to say that? 
 
additionally, any dominion not your dominion is enemy dominion.  you can only possibly give stuff to an enemy.  no matter who you give stuff to, it is helping to spread a faith not your own.  what true pretender would stand for that?  You are here to spread your faith and to become god!  not whimper out and roll your stuff over to someone else.  
			
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if you are the true pretender (which in playing the game you say you are) then why not 'spite' them yourself?  If you give up and give stuff away to someone else, your only admitting you were a cop out from the start.  Never good enough to be god, someone else had to do it for you.  What real pretender is going to say that? 
 
additionally, any dominion not your dominion is enemy dominion.  you can only possibly give stuff to an enemy.  no matter who you give stuff to, it is helping to spread a faith not your own.  what true pretender would stand for that?  You are here to spread your faith and to become god!  not whimper out and roll your stuff over to someone else.  
			
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		I think of it as acceptable, just picture this.  You are a cop, with no arms, and your gun is next to you.  Are you going to kick it over to your "friend" or just let it go to waste?  A rough comparison, but fitting nonetheless! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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