OT-D&D 4th edition game group?

[MrToxin]

The problem is that they're obsessing over rules and endless books of (typically over-powered) fluff, rather than a simple, quick-flowing rulesset that was more worried about players playing characters that were running around having grand adventures. I'm not going to be even remotely optimistic about fourth edition.

Chances are, I'll wait until I see what people over at the SA forums think, skim the book in the store, and...well, then I'll ultimately cannibalize the rules I like for my own version of the d20 system that I keep mangling to suit my own campaign world.