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				 Manifestation is overpowerd. 
 Manifestation is overpowered for one reason and one reason only: Manifestations have a chance of attacking the commander regardless of how many units the commander is surrounded by. I just did a bunch of tests. Nothing so far gauranteed safety from Manifestation because the commander can be killed in one hit (I'm talking about mages of course). I think Manifestations should be set to "attack closest" to balance it out.
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				May 14th, 2008, 10:42 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Manifestation is overpowerd. 
 is manifestation the ritual that has a 50% chance of attacking a random commander in a province, otherwise it turns on the caster?  it also is more likely to hit horror marked commanders. |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 14th, 2008, 10:51 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Manifestation is overpowerd. 
 It's 50% ***PER*** commander. If you cast manifestation on a province with 10 commanders, that means 10 50% checks. I've never had a problem with getting attacked by my own manifestation. Getting attacked by your own manifestation or not, it's still too deadly. |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 14th, 2008, 11:55 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Manifestation is overpowerd. 
 It's rather like other assassination methods that way, and one counter is stacking with non-vital targets (scouts, indy commanders, etc), no? |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Manifestation is overpowerd. 
 Earth attack and disease demon are also fairly brutal depending on the circumstances. I don't think manifestation is any better. 
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		| Baalz said: Earth attack and disease demon are also fairly brutal depending on the circumstances. I don't think manifestation is any better.
 
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				 Re: Manifestation is overpowerd. 
 I've had my manifester attacked by his manifestation.
 You want to know what garuntees safety against it?  Same thing as against any other assasian spell- its actually the easiest to defend against, to be honest.
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				 Re: Manifestation is overpowerd. 
 sum1lost: it's easist do defend against an assassination? that statement confuses me for more reasons than one. What are you trying to say? |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Manifestation is overpowerd. 
 "Out of the assassination spells, Manifestation is the easiest to defend against" I'd wager. |  
	
		
	
	
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		| Argitoth said: You're only saying that because you didn't do any tests. You're going on basic assumptions of Dominions.
 
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