Shattered Soul for tartarians. Do tell !

Agrajag · #1 May 15th, 2008, 03:17 PM

I'm more in favour of creating some more awesome tartarian equivalents than nerfing tartarians.
Well, maybe some gentle nerfing, but add some more uber awesomes to throw around, it will only make things more interesting

DonCorazon · #2 May 15th, 2008, 03:22 PM

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Agrajag said:
I'm more in favour of creating some more awesome tartarian equivalents than nerfing tartarians.
Well, maybe some gentle nerfing, but add some more uber awesomes to throw around, it will only make things more interesting

I agree. Tarts are useful for nations without innate SCs like Niefel Jarls or Seraphs. Now it looks like we'll need to rely on Monkey PD level Tarraqsues.

Kristoffer O · #3 May 15th, 2008, 04:33 PM

I've thought about making Seraph unwishable, but thought that such a change should not come until you have been allowed to discuss the matter.

Kristoffer O · #4 May 15th, 2008, 04:36 PM

Shattered soul is currently a form of insanity. Some orders are different, but it's basically the same as insanity. It is quite simple. Revolting or ritual casting were not implemented. Current chance is 20% IIRC.

MaxWilson · #5 May 15th, 2008, 04:43 PM

Oh, that sounds kind of fun. SCs wandering (semi-) randomly around the map, wiping out PD and occasionally getting killed. Very thematic.

-Max

NTJedi · #6 May 15th, 2008, 04:44 PM

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MaxWilson said:
Oh, that sounds kind of fun. SCs wandering (semi-) randomly around the map, wiping out PD and occasionally getting killed. Very thematic.

-Max

This is also what I hope shattered soul will be doing.

sansanjuan · #7 May 15th, 2008, 05:17 PM

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Kristoffer O said:
Shattered soul is currently a form of insanity. Some orders are different, but it's basically the same as insanity. It is quite simple. Revolting or ritual casting were not implemented. Current chance is 20% IIRC.

I'm insane ~20% of the time too!..

SSJ (Undead Titan)

PS Of all the Tart balance knobs you could turn (fewer slots, higher cost, weaker paths, lower stats) that was probably the best.

NTJedi · #8 May 15th, 2008, 04:43 PM

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Kristoffer O said:
I've thought about making Seraph unwishable, but thought that such a change should not come until you have been allowed to discuss the matter.

Off-topic from the Tartarian discussion, but since you are the ultimate ascended pretender deciding the fate of our future games... I'll jump off-topic with ya!

The seraph is very powerful, yet other powerful ones also exist such as the gorgon who has petrification by default. At a price of 100 astral gems I don't think we have to worry about wishing for seraphs as a popular late game strategy.

calmon · #9 May 15th, 2008, 05:05 PM

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Kristoffer O said:
I've thought about making Seraph unwishable, but thought that such a change should not come until you have been allowed to discuss the matter.

/signed!

I never understand why a national spell which cost 144 gems (seraph + some other stuff) are simple useable for every other nation via wish (both research 9 spells). The costs 100 astral + 20 nature are even cheaper!

Edi · #10 May 15th, 2008, 05:21 PM

I heartily support making Seraph and other very powerful nation specific summons unwishable. There's also a mechanism for it to be done retroactively. The seraph is the most obvious one, but only because nobody outside the beta group has seen the unique summons of Hinnom.

*shudder*

Everything else is more or less okay for the price, but those...just no.