Manifestation is overpowerd. - Page 7

Argitoth · #61 May 15th, 2008, 09:15 PM

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Tuidjy said:
but he keeps posting about "overpowered" tactics... and the ones that he advances as such are no more powerful than a dozen of others that he has simply not encountered yet.

So you're saying everytime I encounter an overpowered tactic, I post a thread about it? Ok. Say what you want, but I've been around since Dominions 1. *Shrug*

However, can't I say the same for you in the opposite way? It is probably that you have not encountered the same overpowered tactics that is why you won't agree with anything I have to say.

chrispedersen: I like your post.

Lastly, the game where all my frustration was coming from is now officially over. One more game to go, PPP. I'll be dead from there soon.

Ironhawk · #62 May 15th, 2008, 09:17 PM

ChrisP: You are overgeneralizing. First that the response to Arg is solely from vets. Go back through this post and other thread's of his to see this for yourself.

Secondly, that the response to him is based on his ideas challenging convention. Nothing could be further from the truth - the response is due to Args attitude and presentation of his ideas, not the ideas themselves. If he would just settle down and present his ideas with some well laid out arguments backed by savefiles or something he would have been recieved well. Instead, he seems to persist in presenting an idea, getting up on a soapbox, and then ranting at anyone who tries to point out counter arguments or strats.

Argitoth · #63 May 15th, 2008, 09:19 PM

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Ironhawk said:
ChrisP: You are overgeneralizing. First that the response to Arg is solely from vets. Go back through this post and other thread's of his to see this for yourself.

Oh no, not this. It's the "Well, you've always been this way and you should not be be respected" claim.

Please lock this thread! Better yet, if you want to ban me from the forum to appease the others, I don't mind it at all.

Edit: You think that I don't realize I am rude and have an attitude? I know this. I simply just didn't feel like being nice lately. Make of this statement what you will.

Ironhawk · #64 May 15th, 2008, 11:14 PM

And now you see the fruits of your labors, Arg.

Xietor · #65 May 15th, 2008, 11:25 PM

I do think one of the most positive aspects of this board, is the lack of posts directed negatively at another poster. Of course even families have arguments at times....

Most statements about a race, spell, or tactic are that one player's opinion. Though some statements are clearly intended to be factual. Like when i recently said lifeless units are not damaged by soul vortex. That was not opinion, but a statement of fact.

Contrast that with my observations about the death line of magic and manifestation. Those statements were clearly one player's opinion-mine. Reasonable minds can differ on on issues. So I do not get upset with anyone who disagrees with me.

Since I am a human, with human emotions and feelings, it is my hope that those who disagree with me do so in a civil manner.

But as an adult, and an older one at that, I know that there will always be instances where someone, for whatever reason, may not be civil. Then the ball shifts back to my court, and I most hope I have the maturity not to be drawn into "a pissing match"- especially on a forum where i come for relaxation and enjoyment.

TheMenacer · #66 May 15th, 2008, 11:45 PM

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Argitoth said:
Oh no, not this. It's the "Well, you've always been this way and you should not be be respected" claim.

Please lock this thread! Better yet, if you want to ban me from the forum to appease the others, I don't mind it at all.

Edit: You think that I don't realize I am rude and have an attitude? I know this. I simply just didn't feel like being nice lately. Make of this statement what you will.

Didn't you say you were going to leave?

Endoperez · #67 May 15th, 2008, 11:49 PM

I was afraid Argitoth's style of claiming things would annoy people. He really stands out on this forum, for some reason. Part of it is in what he says, which is great (I've also learned a lot from these threads, e.g. about using Manifestation to break castle defences in late game), and part of it is how he says it.

Like chrispedersen, I don't like seeing these "so long" posts on this forum. I didn't say anything about it because I think I mentioned his attitude first about a month ago, and didn't want to sound like a hypocrite. Still, the forum's been more lively for a while.

AdmiralZhao · #68 May 16th, 2008, 12:40 AM

About Manifestation, I've found that Swarm works well as a cheap counter. It gives even N1 casters a decent chance to survive. Backed up with decent body guards, and perhaps a few more castings of Swarm if you are N2 or higher, and Manifestation is not that much of a threat.

About Argitoth, I too enjoy his threads. His monkey PD thread and other have created lots of new in-jokes over the last few months. It's good to have something besides the bog beast jokes. Not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with the bog beast jokes.

MaxWilson · #69 May 16th, 2008, 01:49 AM

Yeah, what is it with the bog beast jokes anyway? I've been away for a year and when I come back everyone thinks bog beasts are hilarious as plush dolls.

-Max

Argitoth · #70 May 16th, 2008, 01:56 AM

Uhhhhhh, I had nothing to do with monkey PD!

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Endoperez said:Like chrispedersen, I don't like seeing these "so long" posts on this forum.

Don't worry, my leaving has nothing to do with dominions game, the forum, the people on the forum, or anything like that. I just don't have time to be playing such a deep game. It requires hours of planning and even more hours to create all these thread.