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May 22nd, 2008, 01:30 AM
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Re: Russian units v4
152. units 188, 547, 807 - 203mm 2A44 Guns - This gun was established on 2S7 Pion and 2S7M Malka. I have not found data about that that this gun was towed. I suggest to make since 1983-85 for 2S7M Malka - one more variant of this gun (the weapon number 229 in our OOB) and to make 5 shells or all AP (cluster). Also I suggest to make off-map a variant 2S7M Malka with a considerable quantity of an ammunition.
153. unit 256 - BM-13 Katyusha - weight 12 tons, speed 40km/h=13
154. unit 254 - BM-14-16 - wrong photo, in arms 1952 (in batch production 1952, in 1958 ended), crew 7, size 4, weight 10, radio 91 or 92, survivability ????, speed 60 km/h=20, change icon
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w.../bm14_16.shtml
155. unit 262 - BM-24 Platoon - in arms 1952, in 1955 increase range 10,6 km, in 1962 more increase range 17.5 km. This car has not received a wide circulation in armies., crew 6, size 5, weight 12 tons, speed 55km/h
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...tnureaktsys/9/
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/bm-24.htm
156. unit 522 - RPU-14 - in arms 1956 (batch production 1957), created for paratroops armies (VDV)
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...tnureaktsys/9/
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...14/rpu14.shtml
157. unit 257 - BM-21 Grad - weight 15 tons, size 5, crew 5, survivability ???, speed (armed) 75km/h, radio 92 (????)
http://www.sudden-strike.ru/news/detail.php?ID=4339
http://www.russarms.com/land/rva/tech-rszo-grad.asp
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/grad/grad.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM-21
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May 22nd, 2008, 02:27 PM
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Re: Russian units v4
158. SP Rocket Launcher BM-21V Grad-V weapon from Grad 122mm rockets, in arms 1967 (for paratroops VDV), on basis of chasis GAZ-66, 12 shells (6x6), crew 5, size 4, speed (armed) 85 km/h=28
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...v/grad_v.shtml
159. unit 266 - BM-21 CM Pl size 5, in game not present on-map variant this is unit, iam not found date in arms.
160. unit 258, 261 - 9P140 Uragan wrong name, correct BM-27 Uragan. Name 9P140 name for chasis this weapon. In arms and batch production 1975, weight 20,2 tons, speed 65km/h=22
http://www.splav.org/ru/arms/uragan/pu.asp
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...tnureaktsys/9/
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...ga/uraga.shtml
161. unit 265 TOS-1 variants 24 burrels (TOS-1A) and 30 burrels (TOS-1), speed 60km/h=20, on basis of chasis T-72 tank, weight on diffirent sources 42-46 tons, survivability=4 ????, in arms begin 1995 (batch production and used in afgan war in 80th), old rockets range 3500 meters, new rockets range 6000 meters, radio=92
http://btvt.narod.ru/3/tos1.htm
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...tnureaktsys/9/
http://armoured.vif2.ru/tos-1.htm
http://www.army.lv/?s=741&id=197
162. unit 259 - BM-30 Smerch Pl crew 32 for platoon, in arms and batch production 1987, armour ??????. iam offer include more one variant BM-30 Smerch with cluster munition and used weapon from our OOB weapon number 102 (unit in our OOB 536 and 537)
http://www.russarms.com/land/rva/tech-rszo-smerch.asp
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...tnureaktsys/9/
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...h/smerch.shtml
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May 22nd, 2008, 03:28 PM
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Re: Russian units v4
163. unit 380 - BRDM-1 Snapper name 2K16 Shmel, on basis of chasis 2P27 BRDM-1
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
164. unit 381 - BRDM-1 Swatter name 2K8 Falanga, on basis of chasisi BRDM-1
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
165. unit 382 - BRDM-1 Sagger name 9K14 Malyutka, on basis of chasisi BRDM-1, 6 burrels ROF=6
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=1598.0
166. unit 383 - BRDM-2 ATGM name 9K11M Malyutka-M, 6 burrels ROF=6, on basis of chasis BRDM-2
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
167. unit 384 - BRDM-2 ATGM name 9K11P Malyutka-P, 6 burrels ROF=6, on basis of chasis BRDM-2
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
168. unit 385 - BRDM-2 ATGM name 9K8 Fleyta, 6 burrels ROF=6, on basis of chasis BRDM-2
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
169. unit 630 BRDM-2 ATGM - name ?????? can be 9K111 Fagot, 5 burrels ROF=5
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
170. unit 631 BRDM-2 ATGM name ??????, wrong weapon1, used Faktoria ATGM, ROF=5
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
171. unit 632 BRDM-2 ATGM name ?????, ROF=5
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=1396.0
172. unit 386 and 387 BRDM-2 ATGM name ?????, ROF=5
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
http://www.russianarms.ru/forum/index.php?topic=1396.0
173. unit 378 UAZ-69 Snapper name GAZ-69 ATGM
174. unit 389 - Krizantema-S correct name Khrizantema-S, in arms 2002 or 2003, on basis of chasis BMP-3, survivability=5 ????, GSR with mm-cells (Millimetric lattice) vision=60 ???, speed 23 and 3 water, weight 13 tons, ultra-sonic missiles used. It is written that such 3 ATGMs can to reflect successfully an attack of 14 tanks of the opponent, having destroyed thus not less than 60 % of these tanks. Iam not found information on ATGM Khrizantema for infantry team, found only on basis of chasis BMP-3. Iam offer change class unit=19 - SP ATGM
http://btvt.narod.ru/4/xrizantema.htm
http://www.army-guide.com/rus/product1650.html
http://www.kbm.ru/ru/product/ptrk/hrizantema-c
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...etptcomplex/5/
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Probably names BRDM ATGM and BRDM-2 ATGM to leave as is, but only without the NATO designation?
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May 23rd, 2008, 01:28 PM
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Re: Russian units v4
175. unit 388 - BMP-3 Kornet ATGM quantity = 16, on basis of chasis BMP-3, weapon2= 120 bullets, survivability=5 ????, speed 23 and 2 water, available until=120. Also have variant on basis of chasis BTR-80 with 12 ATGM, change class unit = 19 SP ATGM
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...t/cornet.shtml
http://gunsite.narod.ru/kornet_e.htm
http://www.rusarmy.com/strelo/ptrk_kornet-e_var.htm
http://btvt.narod.ru/4/kornet.htm
176. unit 407 - 9P149 Shturm name Shturm-S, name 9P149 it name chasis, ROF=4, 12 ATGM Kokon 9M114, weight 12 tons, speed 20 and 2 water, crew 2, carry 0, change class unit = 19 SP ATGM
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w.../shturms.shtml
http://btvt.narod.ru/4/Shturm.htm
http://www.kbm.ru/ru/product/ptrk/shturm-ataka
http://www.russarms.com/land/rva/tech-ptur-shturms.asp
177. unit 408 - 9P149 Ataka name Shturm-SM, in arms 1985, it modernized variant unit Shturm-S with ATGM Ataka 9M120, 12 ATGM, ROF=4, crew 2, weight 12 tons, speed 20 and 2 water, carry 0, change class unit = 19 Sp ATGM. Iam offer in 90th years make variant Sturm-SM with TI sight (I have not found exact date when have established such sight. But such sights are.) also I offer make variant unit Shturm-SM with ATGM 9M120M Ataka-M, can be - begin 2000th
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w.../shturms.shtml
http://btvt.narod.ru/4/Shturm.htm
http://www.kbm.ru/ru/product/ptrk/shturm-ataka
http://www.russarms.com/land/rva/tech-ptur-shturms.asp
178. unit 642 Tiger Kvartet - There are no exact data about presence of this car in army. But there are characteristics of a launcher for ATGM Kornet. I think that in army they are. I, for example, did not know that in army there are these cars with a machine gun 7.62mm PKT CMG and 30mm AGS GL - these cars were on the red area in Moscow on victory parade. To you to decide - to clean it from game or not to touch.
Factory: http://www.kbptula.ru/rus/atgw/kvartet.htm
English: http://www.kbptula.ru/eng/atgw/kvartet.htm
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...iaa2targets/7/
179. unit 643 - Vest ATGM wrong photo, this unit on basis of chasis UAZ-3151
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...iaa2targets/7/
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May 25th, 2008, 02:23 PM
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Re: Russian units v4
180. unit 290 - SA-2 Guideline correct name S-75 Dvina, In game almost all is correct, only why parametre EW is established = 2?
http://pvo.guns.ru/s75/s75_data.htm
http://mvizru84.my1.ru/index/0-10
181. Area SAM - S-75 Volkhov we offer include in game this is unit from our OOB, modernized S-75 Dvina, in arms 1962, FC=105, EW=4, its weapon used in Vietnam war.
http://pvo.guns.ru/s75/s75_data.htm
http://mvizru84.my1.ru/index/0-10
182. unit 291 - SA-3 Goa correct name S-125 Neva, we offer change EW=4 for weapon next generation in this type. The set of modern decisions for this weapon is used.
http://pvo.guns.ru/s125/s125.htm
http://www.raspletin.ru/production/old/s125.php
183. Area SAM S-125 Neva, modernized variant, in arms 1970, EW=5, ROF=4, FC=105
http://pvo.guns.ru/s125/s125.htm
http://www.raspletin.ru/production/old/s125.php
184. unit 292 - SA-4 Ganef correct name Krug A, on basis of modernized chasis SU-100P, speed 16, FC=105, survivability=2 ?????? In 1971 unit modernized name Krug M EW=5.
http://pvo.guns.ru/krug/krug09.htm
http://pvo.guns.ru/krug/krug.htm
http://pvo.guns.ru/krug/krug04.htm
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/krug/krug.shtml
185. unit 283 - SA-6 Gainful correct name Kub, in arms 1967, FC=105, survivability=3 ?????, speed=16, in 1973 modernized variant name Kub M1, FC=110
http://pvo.guns.ru/kub/kub6.htm
http://pvo.guns.ru/kub/kub.htm
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/kub/kub.shtml
186. unit 289 - SA-11 Gadfly correct name Buk, speed 18, survivability=3 ?????, ROF=4, EW=6, in 1983 make modernization variant name Buk M1, EW=7
http://pvo.guns.ru/buk/buk_4.htm
http://www.ump.mv.ru/buk_ttx.htm
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/buk/buk.shtml
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...m1/bukm1.shtml
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w.../bukm1_2.shtml
187. unit 280, 284 - SA-8a Gecko correct name Osa, in arms 1972, EW=5, vision=0, ROF=4, in 1976 modernized name Osa-AK, new weapon from our OOB, EW=6, vision=0,weapon shells=6, ROF=6, FC=105, in 1978 modernized new variant Osa-AKM, FC=110, vision=0
http://pvo.guns.ru/osa/osa.htm
http://pvo.guns.ru/osa/osa10.htm
http://pvo.guns.ru/osa/osa06.htm
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/osa/osa.shtml
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...k/osa_ak.shtml
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w.../osa_akm.shtml
188. unit 281 - SA-9 Gaskin correct name Strela-1, speed 32 and 2 water, quantity missiles 4
http://pvo.guns.ru/strela1/strela1_05.htm#3
189. unit 285 - SA-9b Gaskin correct name Strela-1M, in arms 1970, quantity missiles 4, speed 32 and 2 water, vision=20, EW=2
http://pvo.guns.ru/strela1/strela1_05.htm#3
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w.../strela1.shtml
190. unit 282 - SA-13 Gopher correct name Strela-10SV, in arms 1976, speed 20 and 2 water, ROF=4, radio=90, we offer FC=3, survivability=4 on basis of chasis MT-LB
http://pvo.guns.ru/strela10/strela10_04.htm
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...rela10sv.shtml
http://pvo.guns.ru/strela10/strela10.htm
191. unit 286 - SA-13b Gopher correct name Strela-10M, in arms 1979, speed 20 and 2 water, radio=90, fc=3, survivability=4, ROF=4
http://pvo.guns.ru/strela10/strela10_04.htm
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...rela10sv.shtml
http://pvo.guns.ru/strela10/strela10.htm
192. unit 287 - SA-13c Gopher correct name Strela-10M3, in arms 1989, vision=30, EW=4, speed 20 and 2 water, FC=3, survivability=4, ROF=4
http://pvo.guns.ru/strela10/strela10_04.htm
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...rela10sv.shtml
http://pvo.guns.ru/strela10/strela10.htm
193. SP SAM Gyurza not found date take in arms this unit, approximately beginning 2001, EW=4, radio=91 or 92, ROF=4, FC=15
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...ketcomplex/17/
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...za/gurza.shtml
http://pvo.guns.ru/strela10/strela10_03.htm#2
194. unit 288 - SA-15 Gauntlet correct name Tor, speed 22, vision=0, survivability=4 ?????, in 1991 modernized variant name Tor-M1, new weapon, FC=115, ew=9
http://www.kupol.ru/ru/AntiaircraftM...Systems/Tor-M1
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...ketcomplex/17/
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/tor/tor.shtml
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/torm/torm.shtml
192. Area SAM - Tor-M1TB towed, speed 0
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...ketcomplex/17/
193. unit 293 S-300PT - towed, change weight for towed, wrong photo
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May 26th, 2008, 02:34 PM
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194. unit 922 - ZSU-23-4M2 FC=10 (my mistake), change weapon, smoke dischargers= ????. We offer clean units 820, 821 not found data for this unit.
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...aartysarty/14/
http://pvo.guns.ru/shilka/shilka.htm
195. unit 401 - ZSU-57-2 quantity shells=300
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...aartysarty/14/
http://pzaku.net/homepage/16/
http://pvo.guns.ru/book/uvz/index.htm
196. unit 419, 420 - 57mm AA-Gun name S-60 AA-Gun, in arms 1950, towed, weight 4 tons, crew 8, size=2. Iam not found data for modernized variant 1966, can be EW modernized or not.
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...tyzenitnaya/5/
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/s-60.htm
http://pvo.guns.ru/s60/index.htm
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/57-%D0%...%98%D0%A1-2%29
http://pzaku.net/homepage/25/
197. unit 870 - MT-LB w/ZU-23 weight 12 tons, iam offer 1980 and change unit class SP Flak=22, weapon2=7.62mm PKT TMG, on basis of chasis MT-LB, speed 20 and 2 water
198. unit 873 - Truck w/ZU-23 carry=132 ?????, iam offer change unit class SP Flak=22
199. unit 405 - 2S6 Tunguska in arms and batch production 1982, stabilizer 4 (new stibilizer), 8 missiles, weapon 2=clean, EW=8
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...tunguska.shtml
http://pvo.guns.ru/panzir/data.htm
200. unit 406 - 2S6M Tunguska name 2S6 Tunguska M, vision=30, EW=8, stabilizer=4, weapon2=clean
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...tunguska.shtml
http://pvo.guns.ru/panzir/data.htm
201. unit 823 - 2S6M1 Tunguska name 2S6 Tunguska M1, in arms 2003-2004, EW=9, stabilizer=4 ?????, FC=120, RF=22
http://pvo.guns.ru/panzir/data.htm
http://www.new-factoria.ru/missile/w...tunguska.shtml
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...aartysarty/18/
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%D0%9A...BA%D0%B0%C2%BB
http://www.vko.ru/DesktopModules/Art...ersion=Staging
http://www.kbptula.ru/rus/zencom/tungr.htm
202. unit 414 - Pantzyr-1 name S1 Pantsyr or Pantsyr-S1, weight 20 tons, crew 3, stabilizer not bad Tunguska=4 or 5, FC=125, vision=40, speed 28, change missiles weapon from our OOB, divide misiles on slots weapons 2,3 and 4, EW=9, Under the statement of the assistant to the commander-in-chief of the Air Forces colonel general Anatoly Nogovitsyna, first samples SPSAM «Pantsyr-S1» will arrive in the Russian Air Forces in 2008.
http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...aartysarty/18/
http://www.missiles.ru/Pansir.htm
http://www.russarms.com/land/vpvo/tech-pzrk-c-1-pan.asp
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%...%D1%8C-%D0%A11
http://pvo.guns.ru/panzir/data.htm
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May 26th, 2008, 03:56 PM
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Re: Russian units v4
194. We offer clean units 820, 821 not found data for this unit.
195. unit 401 - ZSU-57-2 quantity shells=300
I have no intention of entering into a dialogue with you over each and every one of these points but these two caught my eye.
194... Have we not gone over this before ? Those two units are DESIGNED to provide ground support fire NOT act as SPAA's and that is why they are set up in the unit class they are with the weapon they have. Also, I have NO IDEA if the phrase "We offer clean units " is coming from your own translation of Russian to English or this is what the automatic translator spits out but after reading it two dozen times I have to think it's the later. The correct phrase would be "remove unit" not "clean unit" and in any case I have no intention of doing so. Those units weapon should probably be WC5 rather than WC19 but I think it was put in 19 to allow it some AA capability as WC19 will opfire on helos to be fair but it's primary purpose is to engage ground targets. Every time you "find" this you complain about it and it's getting tiresome.
195. quantity shells=300 Great. AA guns fire "bursts" so the number of shells issued to a unit like that is the number of bursts of fire it's capable of
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