Mists of deception make my 8 Marble Oracle dead?

[DonCorazon]

calmon said:
If the devs can't fix this easily they should think about removing the entire spell in the next patch.

I can't remeber any other spell/bug which causes so much trouble and unnecessary insulting disscussions.

Sure a mod would do it too but it shouldn't the way such gamebreaking bugs/exploit are handled.
I want to discuss about using good and funny mods and not to use a bug fix mod every time i start a game.

I agree - this spell and the ensuing arguments has led at least one person to quit the game. Not worth the hassle IMHO.

[Twan]

I now have a fix true to the spirit of the spell : it summons 3 kinds of phantom creatures, with reasonable number of effects per round (without the bug, MoD was really a weak spell), and has a limited duration of 9 rounds instead of the perpetual effect (file in mod forum).

[Aezeal]

No offence but to "keep true to the spirit of the spell" wouldn't it be best to just let it be the same (maybe weak but there are more weak spells) and just let it end after say 40 turns.. that gives 10 turns before the retreat etc

[Twan]

The maximum number of rounds for a spell duration is 9.

#effect mod command
x = battle spell
100x to 900x = "cloud" of spell x with one to nine rounds duration
1000x = ritual version of spell x

Then the number of effects of vanilla MoD is the number of rounds x mage level (with unlimited number of rounds, but usually opponent is routed at some point)

My number of effect for 9 rounds is 9 x ((3 x mage level) + 2) = 27 x mage level + 18.

So number of effects of my version is about the same as a 30 rounds long old MoD spell, it's just concentrated in a shorter duration.

A 30 or 40 rounds MoD, even with just one effect / round, would anyway be far more powerful because the bugged way this kind of spell works make its duration = minimum battle duration if the caster retreats (and in a 40 rounds long fight some spells like Wrathfull Skies or fatigue BE can be devastating).

I find 9 rounds a good medium (between making MoD an instant or keeping it as it was), allowing to use MoD to make battles longer but not too much, so even the combo with other BE can be allowed.

[Micah]

Thanks Twan, that sounds awesome.

[Zeldor]

9 turns seems to be completely enough for that. Battles either end quite fast [+ some turns to finish that fight] or are really dragged and turn limit comes.

[Edi]

I have suggested in the beta forum that a change like this be taken into consideration for the next patch, at least for the interim. We shall see what Johan and Kristoffer say to this. Having a MoD that lasts 9, 12 or 15 rounds or something like that should be effectively the same as the original intention with the bonus of not being exploitable.