Re: End Utgard
And a few more words on the nation.
Yes, LA R'lyeh is a powerhouse, but it will be doomed in the hand of careless player unless he is lucky. They need lots of micromanagement and absolutely poor land troops (I realized it rather late, btw, having lost almost all chaff I had to mictlan 40 PD and 50 non-double blessed jaguars). Their chaff is nothing without heavy mage support (Astral geyser is wonderful and so are Nether Darts) or powerful end-game buffs. That's the time they start to shine...
So, R'lyeh can be played against if it is treated correctly. It has rather many weak points and can be "held in a cage".
Probably, I'll write what I think about them in the discussion forum some time later
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