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May 23rd, 2008, 10:08 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
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May 23rd, 2008, 10:58 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
> No--the castle increases the available resources in the province you put it in at
> the expense of the provinces around. Neither the total income nor the total
> resources are affected.
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> The only way to affect the total is what scales you chose when you started the
> game.
This is absolutely not true.
Building a castle will increase the income of the targeted province, without
affecting the income of the surrounding provinces.
As for resources, not only does the castle increase the resources from the
targeted province, it also brings in resources that were previously not
present in the surrounding provinces. Now, when you have more than one
castle drawing from one province, things get trickier, and you can (will)
reduce the resources in the uncastled provinces.
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May 23rd, 2008, 11:15 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
A fort does not bring resources to surrounding provinces, it takes a percentage of resources from surrounding provinces based on its Admin rating. It DOES propagate supplies to neighbors however. Big differece.
And it usually takes more than 1 fort to take half or more of the resources from a neighboring province to the point where it starts reducing available resources for building in that province, unless one is a capital.
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May 23rd, 2008, 11:17 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
More great info. I still wonder though, is my starting "Fortified City" the only one of it's kind I will have in the game unless I capture from another player?
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May 23rd, 2008, 11:21 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
> I still wonder though, is my starting "Fortified City" the only one of it's kind
> I will have in the game
This depends on your nation. Some nations build a lot of fortified cities. Some
cannot. Some players, and I am of their number, think that the high admin forts
are actually a pain in the ***, and wish that they could build the cheapest fort
in the game in every province.
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May 24th, 2008, 12:16 AM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
To elaborate: in the manual, it says which fort types your nation builds in which kinds of terrain. (When there are multiple terrains, forest is preferred over mountain. I'm not sure about the order of the others.) Fortified City is usually a plains/farmland city for most nations that have it, while Hill Fortress is usually in the mountains. Hill Fortress gives better defense and is cheaper but boosts income less (doesn't matter much) and collects less resources from surrounding provinces (but that's usually offset by the hill fortress province itself having more resources). I like Hill Fortresses better in most ways.
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May 24th, 2008, 04:06 AM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
Pages 41-42 of the manual explain fortress resource collection in detail.
When a fort is built, provinces produce double the resources they produces before the fort. The resources collected from the neighbouring provinces are first collected from the potential resources the province would have if it was castled, so 50% of a province that has 13 resources is 50% of 26 resources, or 13. Manual has pictures and other things and explains what happens with two adjacent castles.
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May 24th, 2008, 09:22 AM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
Yes it's explained very well in the book. Hey, it's Saturday morning, going to read a bit of it before plunging back into play. Glad I didn't have the Coins to build one last night. I would have inevitably built in the wrong province before reading this.
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May 24th, 2008, 12:25 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
Can anyone explain "Supply" in a couple of simple sentences? The deeper I get into my game (@30 provinces so far on the 480 province map), the more boggling this is becoming really.
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May 24th, 2008, 12:32 PM
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Re: Newbie Question: Attack Benefit
Also...can I leader start a building (Fort)and then move on next turn or must he stay for the entire building process? If he moves on, and the construction halted, does the Coin get returned to the pool?
Perhaps I should break these questions into new separate threads...if so let me know.
Guys you are great for helping this Newbie get into what must be one of the best Strategy games I've ever bought. And I started in '90 or so~~~ ;-)
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