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Old May 25th, 2008, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: Why Not Digitial Distribution?

You're still claiming things without a single shred of evidence. Dominions 3 is not Stars!, so you can throw that comparison right out the window. There are some similarities, but that is all they are.

This discussion is also moving to territory where it might as well soon be shut down because it's not going to be productive in any way if things continue in the same vein.
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Old May 26th, 2008, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Why Not Digitial Distribution?

I already have bought the game, but would have bought it digitally if that was possible. Maybe digital distribution is not right for Dom3 at the moment, as suggested - but it is the 'way of the future'. Maybe Dom4?

As for piracy of PC games, read:
http://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com...?postid=303512
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Edi said:Dominions 3 is not Stars!, so you can throw that comparison right out the window.
They both use a similar and very effective copy protection scheme. If that's not a similarity then I don't know what it takes. Want proof of effectiveness, go search for other discussions on the Stars! copy protection.
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This discussion is also moving to territory where it might as well soon be shut down because it's not going to be productive in any way if things continue in the same vein.
Excuse me, but do you own this forum? You seem very eager to shut down this discussion on the general principle that you find it tedious I've stated a new important issue about this case, and yes, you're probably right that it wont change their descision, but please let other people have their say before you cry out, demanding the discussion be shut down

Anyway, I'll leave it at that for now, so you'll get it your way
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Old May 27th, 2008, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Why Not Digitial Distribution?

Edi is a hard man, and these forums need discipline, something their mother never gave them. >.>


But seriously, I think that his point ultimately is that it doesn't matter what semi or totally vaid points you bring up - the distribution method of the game will not change because of your arguments.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 03:17 AM
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Dominions 3 is not Stars!, so you can throw that comparison right out the window.
They both use a similar and very effective copy protection scheme. If that's not a similarity then I don't know what it takes.
The point apparently sailed right over your head. Similar != same. Your argument assumes that the copy protection for both Stars! and Dominions 3 is the same, when it is only similar, NOT the same. So your argument does not apply directly, yet you're still advancing it as if it did. This is what I and several other people have been trying to explain to you for the past several posts.

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Want proof of effectiveness, go search for other discussions on the Stars! copy protection.
I'll take your word for it that the Stars! copy protection is as effective as you say. It doesn't matter a jot, because it is simply not relevant for this discussion.

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This discussion is also moving to territory where it might as well soon be shut down because it's not going to be productive in any way if things continue in the same vein.
Excuse me, but do you own this forum? You seem very eager to shut down this discussion on the general principle that you find it tedious
No, I don't own the forum, Shrapnel Games does. The reason I was contemplating shutting this discussion down because it's turning out to be a rehash of an issue that has been discussed and resolved already in the past. And not just once, if my memory serves me correctly.

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I've stated a new important issue about this case, and yes, you're probably right that it wont change their descision, but please let other people have their say before you cry out, demanding the discussion be shut down

Anyway, I'll leave it at that for now, so you'll get it your way
The problem with what you have been saying is not that there is something new, but that there is not and these considerations have already been taken into account and factored into the decision about how to distribute Dominions 3. That's why the decision is not going to change. I believe Tim Brooks also explained this in prior posts.

The thing is that the people on the forums do not have access to all the information that goes into making these decisions. I'm not an employee of Shrapnel or Illwinter, but even so I have a little bit more access than the average forum user due to being a forum moderator and the bug list manager. I have a slightly better picture due to that privileged information, though nowhere near complete. But with the information I do have, taken together with what Tim has said in the past, I feel I can safely say the Shrapnel argument is persuasive.

The problem with this approach is of course that since I cannot divulge what has not been said in public, I can only offer you my word on this issue. Whether you choose to trust that is up to you. I hope that I have generally been forthright enough that my word is sufficient for most people here.
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Default Re: Why Not Digitial Distribution?

I have resolved my problems with the game distribution. I think it should stay as it is. After all, why bother with a slight delay in receiving a game that you will probably play for 2-3 years. The delay in receiving it is immaterial, and helps the developers weed out piracy.
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