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Old May 26th, 2008, 11:20 PM
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What should be noted is the quite dramatic drop in first shot hit % when range goes above 300m. Something that does not happen with missiles, at least not that clearly). Also, when the targets were 150m away on field (if it has any cover value?) the hit % on first shot was really low (23%)!

1) 300m just happens to be 1/2 or more max weapon range (12 hexes, 600m) - so accuracy drops off there somewhat for any non-missiles.

2) TA-HEAT is not an ATGM weapon - TA-ATGM would be.

3) Fields do provide some cover (esp for infantry) - the crops obscure vision like tall grass.

As I said before - the NLAW really needs to be in a new missile class of its own. (Or, the possibility for VIRSS and CIWS needs to be screwed right down for reaction to very close range missile shots - vehicle dodging is already difficult if the missile launch is from < 20 hexes/1000 yards). When I look at the code again for the next release around Xmas time, I'll have a look into these short-range semi-guided weapons.

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Old May 27th, 2008, 02:08 PM
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I had two examples yesterday in tests where one MBT LAW ( same weapon as NLAW ) fired by an infanrty section AFTER MOVING hit and destroyed a tank at 600 yeards range on the first shot and a Inf AT team did the same thing, after moving, on a tank at 550. Both were game "combat conditions". I am not convinced there is a problem with the accuracy of this weapon.

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Mobhack said:
As I said before - the NLAW really needs to be in a new missile class of its own... ...When I look at the code again for the next release around Xmas time, I'll have a look into these short-range semi-guided weapons.

OK, thanks for the info, I missed the part where you said you already were looking into NLAW having missile class.

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I am not convinced there is a problem with the accuracy of this weapon.
OK, if this is the accurate you think the weapon should have, I won't argue anymore about this, as it may just be that I have had bad luck with the weapon so far.

The way the weapon is handled, like Andy confirms in quote above, is hopefully something you also can agree on. And perhaps IF NLAW receives a missile class of its own, the (especially first round) hit % will go up to a level that would reflect the real life characteristics of the weapon a bit better (1-2-3 ladder is no longer used, or the effect is more limited vs. normal guns).

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By the way, while going through the NLAWs in all OOBs, I noticed that Sweden and GB have NLAW ROF 6, and Finland 4. While looking at a few other AT teams, also noticed that GB and Sweden have them all in ROF 6-7, but Finnish APILAS Team was ROF 4. Just and observation that hopefully helps
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