turn resolution sequence

thejeff · #1 May 28th, 2008, 11:32 AM

Short answer, you'll never catch him.

You're misunderstanding the movement process.
All moves are done first, then battles resolved. The only time randomness comes into it is when paths cross.

Example:
Jarl in Province A
Your Party in Province B
Jarl attacks C
You attack A.
The Jarl will always be gone before you get there.

If instead, the Jarl attacks B, while you attack A from B, the game will randomly decide whether the battle happens in A or B, with a small chance of the armies missing each other and battles happening in both A and B.
Since he's flying and probably jumping over provinces, this will be hard to do.

The only guaranteed solution is to teleport on top of him. Otherwise you'll have to guess where he's going and have a force waiting for him.

Good Luck

parcelt · #2 May 28th, 2008, 11:55 AM

Ah, that explains a lot. Thanks for the input.

It does suck though, I can't spare the gems to go teleporting.

ano · #3 May 28th, 2008, 12:17 PM

Then you have to guess his moves. A common and interesting task)

parcelt · #4 May 28th, 2008, 01:09 PM

True - and definitely a very interesting aspect of MP fighting. However, in this particular case he is flying with map movement 3, and in the middle of my lands.
There's at least 15 provinces he can choose from... The only good news is that it's just one Jarl - with so many lands its really just an inconvenience, unlike the big armies he has on my borders.... everything is relative!

ano · #5 May 28th, 2008, 01:43 PM

Just defend the most important provinces (with temples or indy mages) well as they are likely targets for his attacks and go take provinces after him. Niefel PD is awful so you shouldn't have trouble with any race. Make your own sc's/thugs, raid him, mind hunt him if he doesn't have good enough MR and so on.

Coldshard · #6 May 28th, 2008, 03:35 PM

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ano said:
Just defend the most important provinces (with temples or indy mages) well as they are likely targets for his attacks and go take provinces after him. Niefel PD is awful so you shouldn't have trouble with any race. Make your own sc's/thugs, raid him, mind hunt him if he doesn't have good enough MR and so on.

Temples provide a defensive boost?

thejeff · #7 May 28th, 2008, 03:40 PM

No, other than raising your dominion.

They're just valuable, so he's likely to hit them.

MaxWilson · #8 May 28th, 2008, 06:12 PM

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ano said:
Just defend the most important provinces (with temples or indy mages) well as they are likely targets for his attacks and go take provinces after him. Niefel PD is awful so you shouldn't have trouble with any race. Make your own sc's/thugs, raid him, mind hunt him if he doesn't have good enough MR and so on.

As far as I know, there is no way to tell what provinces produce indy mages except by looking at a stack of them sitting in a province (which probably means it's too well-defended for a thug to take). I would be surprised if the Niefel opponent were successfully able to target your indy provinces. Temples, on the other hand, are quite targetable.

-Max

Ironhawk · #9 May 28th, 2008, 01:46 PM

All you need is a flyer of your own to just go behind him and clean up all the province the enemy raider craps on. That should balance things out.

As for flying meaning you are unable to guess his movements - its not really the case. Put yourself in the shoes of the controller of that SC. He's likely not moving *completely* randomly. The enemy player wants to maximize his damage to you (probably in gold) while minimizing the threat to his raider. So high value provinces which are not near forts or other troop bodies are the most likely targets.