New patch

QXel · #1 May 29th, 2008, 11:39 AM

Hello Edi,

I just take a look at your link. It is unfortunate obviously, but usual with Microsoft patches ...

To give courage to Calahan, I have en AMD-based computer with an ATI video card, and I have no current indetified problems with the SP3.

As I say, I'll check the Dom patch this evening.

If it's seem to be the SP3, then I will return back to SP2 to test, but perhaps not today.

See you.

QXel

Zeldor · #2 May 29th, 2008, 11:47 AM

Ok, I have checked and I have SP2 on XP only. And I don't think it wanted to be downloaded by updated. So I would try to check that thing.

I think that SP3 is not compatible with even 70-90% games. I have seen threads in many forums urging people not to install it.

QXel · #3 May 29th, 2008, 12:10 PM

Zeldor,

everytime Microsoft release a SP, MANY people claim to not install it because they promess you a lot of problems !!!
Without having testing it or even having a MS OS !!!
Just because "M$" is "Bad & EVIL" ...
It is just a tradition.

Believe me, I'm working in a company which is a specialist in systems of information (system, network, programs & developpement) and I know what I'm saying.
Ours Engineers install SPs, and yes, after checking.

But I highly doubt that Microsoft release a patch which ruins 70-90% of the games !!!
First: never see that kind of thing (and it is since DOS 5.0 & Windows 3.11 - yes, I'm OLD ...

and believe me, it was worst with W95 & 98 !!!)
Second: gamers & games editors are a BIG community and so a BIG source of money to MS, and MS don't want to angry them.

SP3 will have some problems, of course, results of the complexity of programmins a OS, but never that kind of.

QXel

P.S.: believe me when I say that I am NOT a pro-MS.

QXel · #4 May 29th, 2008, 12:14 PM

Calahan,

I also doubt that SP3 came like that on its own with Windows Update.

I check MS Update on a regular basis, and it asks me for the SP3. If I wouldn't authorized it and click on "Yes, I want to download & install the SP3", I will still be in SP2.

It is NOT considered as a critical update in MS Update.

QXel

Edi · #5 May 29th, 2008, 12:50 PM

In that light, it looks more and more like a tech support case for Shrapnel support to handle.

Calahan · #6 May 29th, 2008, 12:55 PM

QXel

I was definately asked if I wanted to install XP SP3, and I said yes. It didn't get automatically installed, if that's what I suggested in my previous posts. But I was notified of SP3's availability via the yellow shield tray-icon that pops up when a Windows update is available.

Anyway, regardless of how it got there, SP3 is definitely on my machine, and probably there to stay. No idea where my XP install disk is to do a fresh install (not had to do a complete re-install for about 3years) and have had a few past nightmares trying to rollback versions of Windows, so won't be doing that anytime soon.

Will still apreciate a test on your machine, to help isolate the problem. If it is a my system only problem, then I guess that'll be my queue to finally buy myself a new rig!

QXel · #7 May 29th, 2008, 12:58 PM

Calahan,

you'll get it in about few hours or so. I'm about to leave work, and I will test as soon as I arrive home (well, it's all about my girlfriend too

).

QXel

Omnirizon · #8 May 29th, 2008, 01:35 PM

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QXel · #9 May 29th, 2008, 01:59 PM

Sorry Calahan:
test have been made: it works perfectly on my computer.

So, make some tests, and if nothing works, follow Edi's advice and contatc Shrapnell support.

For your information, here is a light summary of my configuration :
ASRock 939 Dual-SATA2 motherboard with AMD Athlon 3800+ monocore socket 939
ATI Radeon 9600XT AGP video card
Windows XP Pro SP3

Calahan · #10 May 29th, 2008, 02:12 PM

Thanks for doing that QXel, and letting me know about the result.

If I get no joy sorting it out this weekend, then I'll get onto customer support next week.

Looks like I'll have to pull out of my MP games though :-( since they all appear to be turning over to Dom 3.17 only. Harsh but fair I guess, nature shows us that stragglers will always get left behind.