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May 29th, 2008, 06:36 PM
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Re: Nation without recruitables
You can get a starting priest by prophetizing some random indy.
-Max
P.S. I wouldn't try this in SP, not so much because I think it would be difficult (although it would be) as because I think it would be bland. But then, I identify more with the nation than the pretender anyway, and almost never use pretender SCs. YMMV.
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May 29th, 2008, 06:54 PM
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Re: Nation without recruitables
I'd like to add that if you like a challange you could try my gangwars mod 
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May 29th, 2008, 07:48 PM
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Re: Nation without recruitables
But which immortals are tough enough to solo provinces without only level 0 magic? I don't think having the pretender research 2-3 levels of magic on his own before attacking is a good plan.
A tough SC, with enough magic to bootstrap a couple of paths, find some sites for income, and forge a few boosters for the common indy mages. 2D2E2S2N maybe. Not sure what chassis. Dom9 or 10 though.
And mercs, mercs'll save you.
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May 29th, 2008, 07:53 PM
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Re: Nation without recruitables
Ghost King is probably the best chassis for soloing indies along with rainbowing out a bit...he needs an air pick or two for air shield to do alright naked, but he can solo average morale melee units fairly well even without buffs and gear.
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May 29th, 2008, 07:59 PM
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Re: Nation without recruitables
For another interesting challenge along similar lines, try Ashen Empire with an imprisoned pretender.
There you get the freespawn troops, but without mages or priests.
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May 29th, 2008, 08:02 PM
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Re: Nation without recruitables
for 2D2E2S2N you'd need a rainbow chassis or bad scales, then you'd have to start a few turns researching alteration. But an immortal pretender could maybe have that and then just attack and if he died.. who cares
You could mod in some appropriate starting troops though
VQ pretender with a few immortal vampires... but that would probably make it a bit too easy again 
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May 29th, 2008, 09:10 PM
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Re: Nation without recruitables
Prince of Death can do 4D2E2S2N Dom9 with 2 negative scales.
And attack without research if you pick your targets.
Lizards killed him though. You're right about the curse.
Wiped them a couple of turns later with indy archers, though. When you're not buying mages or expensive national troops, you can buy alot of indies fast.
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May 29th, 2008, 09:22 PM
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Re: Nation without recruitables
yeah lol who will die fast against mages and expensive national troop from AI opponents
did you try this with my "mod"?
I still think immortality is the key here
which immortal chassis are there..
I think opening up some extra pretender chassis and giving them a bonus heat/cold scale for extra points would not be unbalancing all things considered
I know VQ, phoenix
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Want a blend of fantasy and sci-fi? Try the total conversion Dominions 3000 mod with a new and fully modded solar system map.
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New and different undead nation? Try Souls of Shiar. Including new powerfull holy magic.
In for a whole new sort of game? Then try my scenario map Gang Wars.
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