Nation without recruitables

[Aezeal]

I'd like to add that if you like a challange you could try my gangwars mod

[thejeff]

But which immortals are tough enough to solo provinces without only level 0 magic? I don't think having the pretender research 2-3 levels of magic on his own before attacking is a good plan.
A tough SC, with enough magic to bootstrap a couple of paths, find some sites for income, and forge a few boosters for the common indy mages. 2D2E2S2N maybe. Not sure what chassis. Dom9 or 10 though.

And mercs, mercs'll save you.

[Micah]

Ghost King is probably the best chassis for soloing indies along with rainbowing out a bit...he needs an air pick or two for air shield to do alright naked, but he can solo average morale melee units fairly well even without buffs and gear.

[thejeff]

For another interesting challenge along similar lines, try Ashen Empire with an imprisoned pretender.

There you get the freespawn troops, but without mages or priests.

[Aezeal]

for 2D2E2S2N you'd need a rainbow chassis or bad scales, then you'd have to start a few turns researching alteration. But an immortal pretender could maybe have that and then just attack and if he died.. who cares

You could mod in some appropriate starting troops though

VQ pretender with a few immortal vampires... but that would probably make it a bit too easy again

[thejeff]

Prince of Death can do 4D2E2S2N Dom9 with 2 negative scales.
And attack without research if you pick your targets.

Lizards killed him though. You're right about the curse.

Wiped them a couple of turns later with indy archers, though. When you're not buying mages or expensive national troops, you can buy alot of indies fast.

[Aezeal]

yeah lol who will die fast against mages and expensive national troop from AI opponents

did you try this with my "mod"?

I still think immortality is the key here

which immortal chassis are there..

I think opening up some extra pretender chassis and giving them a bonus heat/cold scale for extra points would not be unbalancing all things considered

I know VQ, phoenix

[thejeff]

I didn't bother with the mod, just didn't recruit any nationals. Only played a few turns to see how indies went.
If I'd been a bit more cautious, I would have been recruiting lizard shamen from turn 6 or so and taking 2 provinces a turn. (Less if I stopped to search with the pretender)
But, yes the AI armies would be challenging. And the micromanagement of recruiting a couple troops from every province every turn was already annoying.

VQ maybe, but phoenix is useless without research. So are the lichs. I think that's it for the non-nation specific immortals.
I'm not sure what to do with the VQ. 23 hp 0 prot, no fear. Life drain is nice, but a couple of hits would finish her. You'd have to add paths to get any useful buffs, then research 6-7 turns before attacking.

[Maraxus]

I thought about making this.

After reading Chuck Noris facts.

A pretender that is virtually unstoppable and that is all ... maybe a fanboy - priest 1 - to build temples, but if you have to find an indep. Comander to make your prophet to build a temple in a province where you can recruit priests would be manageable, too.

[Edratman]

I think the best way do to this would be to combine Aezeal's mod with a map mod giving a very powerful cheated pretender. Seraph, fully equipped, comes to mind. Maybe there is a better immortal, open to suggestion here. Not limited to existing pretender chassis for this effort. Maybe a lot of magic on it, but I'm unsure of that. Bless could only be used on Amazon troops and the rare Fir Blog. And of course, great scales.

I make you a map mod if you are interested. Choose a map from the "come-with-game" maps.

I will also need the nation number Aezeal used in his dm. file.

I do agree with everyone else, it sounds to me like it wouldn't be much fun.