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		Of course Hinnom can hit you right back with Rain of Toads, which is three times as good as Blight in terms of causing unrest to shut down production. 
 
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		They aren't really a great blood economy nation though, Hinnom. Their blood hunters are pretty expensive, cap only and eat the population. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Yeah, that spell is pretty nasty.  I don't think it'll hurt you as much as it hurts them, though.  You can always patrol, lower taxes, and recover the population.  They'll have a hard time doing all three because they need the income and growing the population back is tough.  Patrolling with indies is an option for them. 
 
Upon further thought stealth armies would hurt them too.  Let them blow cash on PD, or better yet march large armies around and patrol trying to find you, killing their pop the whole time. 
 
I don't know, I haven't really tried any of this.  I played against them twice in SP.  They were close neighbors both times so I eliminated them early through regular means.  Just some ideas I'm shooting around. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Hinnom's PD is pretty damn good. Certainly pisses all over other giant PD. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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 I think it's better than anybody else's PD.
 
One question I have:  What units exactly eat population and how much do they eat?  I wish the text told us those things!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I have only played them in EA but i think only the biggest giants eat the population in EA.  I thought i read something about them not eating each other and everything else in one of the later ages but not really sure? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		In EA the rephaim all eat population and can also eat avvim and each other. My Baal ate a Melqart the other day. I think he may have gained power by doing so actually. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		yes their light infantry is greater than some heavy of the age just armor wise. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Ulm's stealthy troops, with some mage support, seem to do pretty well against it.  Then again, Ulm's stealthy troops are pretty good. 
 
They're in my game now kind of beating the crap out of everybody else.  I'll try some of my ideas out and see how they work. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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