Let's Change Forts

[Twan]

I do think all forts should just be build in 3 turns, maybe the cheapest in 2.

Personally I would like to see a tiered system where you could pick from a number of forts for a given province type, all with different construction times, defense values, and costs.

The main reason forts are as they are was to avoid to see everyone building the cheapest/fastest to build forts everywhere, something which ruined many dom2 games.

If all forts are changed to have the same build time or cost I think it should be high ones, 5 or 6 turns, 1000+ gold. Or if a choice is made possible, fast to build forts should be more expensive than others.

[Endoperez]

Currently building time and cost are directly related. The faster to build, the cheaper. It could be changed, of course, but is way, way less likely than fortress modding commands.

[WraithLord]

I don't think the devs are likely to ever change this. But if they were I'd like to see forts return to the pretender design screens, but this time not as a simple choice but rather as follows:

Give default nation "thematic" fort types for different terrains. Then allow player to change those values, so that the factors of how fast it takes to build a castle, its admin and defense all count towards making it more expensive.

[Jazzepi]

WraithLord said:
I don't think the devs are likely to ever change this. But if they were I'd like to see forts return to the pretender design screens, but this time not as a simple choice but rather as follows:

Give default nation "thematic" fort types for different terrains. Then allow player to change those values, so that the factors of how fast it takes to build a castle, its admin and defense all count towards making it more expensive.

Personally I would think that people should have to "buy down" all the bad qualities of a fort like build time, and "buy up" all the good qualities in the pretender design screen like defense value, supply value, administration.

I think what might happen though would be that people would pick 0 for supply 0 for defense and as much administration as possible with as little cost and build time as possible. To me all this means is that supply and defense should be made more interesting and useful, currently they're neither.

Jazzepi

[WraithLord]

agreed. Maybe supplies could confer a bonus to income as well (smaller than admin of course).

And defense may add some national militia squads or something.

[thejeff]

The better forts could just have even more built in archers. And I mean lots.
Currently, those are nice, but past the earliest wars aren't sufficient to turn a battle.