Epics, Sagas, Fantasies, Mythos, Legends, Nations.

[VedalkenBear]

I'll point out that Caelum is very Iranian/Zoroastrian in its flavoring. Also the Mountain aspects of it are quite Himalayan.

As I've stated elsewhere, the Japanese nations (Yomi, Shinuyama, and Jomon (Hepburn romanization looks so weird to me now)) are based off of Japanese folklore, not their religion or their mythology. My Wakoku mod is almost ready for testing, and I hope that it reflects a more 'mythohistorical' view of Japan.

[MaxWilson]

Jim,

Isn't that the source for Hinnom/Ashdod/Gath? Huge alien beings with godlike powers that educated humans for mysterious reasons and spawned a race of giants?

-Max

[JimMorrison]

MaxWilson said:
Jim,

Isn't that the source for Hinnom/Ashdod/Gath? Huge alien beings with godlike powers that educated humans for mysterious reasons and spawned a race of giants?

-Max

Ehh, I am pretty sure Hinnom et al are Jewish. Actually, I just looked it up, that is certainly the case. Did IW throw in the Annunaki to get the giant aspect? Not sure, as the Annunaki mythos in Sumeria does not include things like flesh-eating and such.

And as far as I know, there was no evidence that in Sumerian tradition, there was any interbreeding. In fact, from what we know, the Annunaki did not let ordinary people even into their presence, they had "temples" erected where they would take audience using their "priests" as mediators, IIRC.

[sector24]

Something about Dom3 I found interesting. The spell Streams of Hades summons a Kokythiad; but such a thing does not exist in Greek mythology. It is a perfectly reasonable type of naiad that could have existed, but apparently it didn't. It's very cool to blend mythology and fantasy in such a seamless way that you almost feel like the Greeks were the ones who messed up.

The idea could be futher expanded. Here's a little excerpt from wikipedia:

"These rivers had names and symbolic meanings: the five rivers of Hades are Acheron (the river of sorrow), Cocytus (lamentation), Phlegethon (fire), Lethe (forgetfulness) and Styx (hate)"

Cocytus (Kokytos -> Kokythiad) and Styx are the popular rivers, but there's room for additional content to be created around the other rivers.

Ague of Acheron - Ritual that spreads disease and sorrow through a province by poisonous water bubbling up from Hades. (Same alliteration as Claws of Cocytus, just a different effect. Could be Agony of Acheron if you don't like the word Ague.)

Summon Phlegethiad - W/D path to summon a F/D or F/W mage

Alright, no more brainstorming. I'm keeping the rest of these ideas to make my own game.

[MaxWilson]

JimMorrison said:
Ehh, I am pretty sure Hinnom et al are Jewish. Actually, I just looked it up, that is certainly the case. Did IW throw in the Annunaki to get the giant aspect? Not sure, as the Annunaki mythos in Sumeria does not include things like flesh-eating and such.

And as far as I know, there was no evidence that in Sumerian tradition, there was any interbreeding. In fact, from what we know, the Annunaki did not let ordinary people even into their presence, they had "temples" erected where they would take audience using their "priests" as mediators, IIRC.

Good point. I tend to equate early Hebrew <=> Sumerian (it sure looks like they're drawing on the same source material, filtered through different lenses) but they don't have to be the same thing from a game perspective. And you've pointed out one big difference between the Annunaki and Hinnom's Grigori.

-Max