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Old November 20th, 2002, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: New Mod: The Art of War Mod

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It's always about the leaky shields, isn't it?
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Huh? How can they "leak"? WHAT can they "leak"??? You totally lost me on this one...
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Oh, hey SJ. I guess I really ought to make this official: Do you mind if I use parts of your mod (P&N) in the Art of War? Some are being used as insperation, some as a starting point, and some parts are just being ripped from your mod and stuck into this one...
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Default Re: New Mod: The Art of War Mod

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Huh? How can they "leak"? WHAT can they "leak"??? You totally lost me on this one...
Leaky Armor:
Allows some damage from enemy weapons to penetrate, and thus damage the internal components before all armor is destroyed.
Adding more and more armor to a ship will decrease the rate at which internals are destroyed by enemy fire.

Leaky Shields:
Allows some damage from enemy weapons to penetrate, and thus damage armor and/or internals before the shields are completely eliminated.
Depending on implementation, shield absorption rates can be set to 0%,20%,33%,50%,66%,80%. Or set to range between zero and any of the values above as the generators recieve damage.
In some circumstances, especially VS very low damage weapons, the absorption can be higher than the expected value.

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I don't mind if you use parts of my mod, as long as you end up with something reasonably different.

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Yes. Yes it is.
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I think you should post how you get those percentages! Just so everyone can follow along and see what you mean.
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Default Re: New Mod: The Art of War Mod

Hmm. The armor I can understand; just take away the "armor" ability.
But how do you do that with shields???

Edit: And to answer your question, I don't plan on using leaky armor or shields at this time. It might be neat for later (much later, at this rate), but I've got other things I want to put in first.

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Default Re: New Mod: The Art of War Mod

A few questions from my to do list (Man, it just keeps getting longer and longer...)

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---Make planet glassing with normal weapons next to impossible.
Can anyone point me to some threads/mods that demonstrate how this is done? I vaguely recall that it involved increasing the damage to kill 1m population and increasing the damage of planetary weapons. But I'm looking for specific explanations/examples to study.

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---Balance the Cultural Modifiers.
I remember that someone did this, once upon a time. Would that person mind if I incorperate their work? Oh, and I'd need a pointer to that mod...

edit: One Last question: Anyone care to share their impressions of v0.80?

To Do list:

playtest v.80 !!!

+++Maintenance+++
X-P&N maintenance settings.
X-Maint reducing components & ship specific mounts;
---Adjust maint. reduction of Crew Areas.
X-Rebalanced # of Lifesupport and Crewquarters with shipsize.
X-Adjust ship hull costs to 1.2$/kt.

+++Miscellaneous+++
X-Add no-AI mod files.
X-Add TDM Formations
---Add some P&N mounts.
---Balance the Cultural Modifiers.
---Add empty Racial Traits slots for future expansion.

+++Damage Allocation+++
---Small racial armors.
X-Add OA ability to all hull sizes. (excluding units)
---Base shields and armor on P&N style.
---Various weapons balancing issues.

+++Ground Combat+++
X-Ground combat down to 3 turns.
---Make planet glassing with normal weapons next to impossible.

+++Space Combat+++
---Change space combat to 50 turns.
---Rebalance the tohit%/ecm% (increase costs of characteristics, ala P&N)
---Add Manuevering thrusters.
---Ship/Fleet Training components ala P&N

+++"Weapons or Butter"+++
X-9 levels of SY, researched thru ship construction, along with Temporal counterparts.
---extend resource extractors down to 10 levels (9 researchable)
---Adjust Research Center and Intel Center points generation.
---Adjust Citizen Database and CCC bonus %s.
---change monolith research to be dependant on resource extraction research. (ala P&N)
---Adjust Robotoid Factory bonus %s.

+++Engines+++
---Smaller vessels can mount more engines than larger ones (ala dreadnaught and baseship).
---Supply usage decreases with engine tech level ala P&N, Exodus
---Reduce Capital Ship combat movement rates by 1/2. (missles, fighters, and drones(?) remain normal). Strategic movement rates remain normal.
---Extend tech tree (ala Exodus mod)

Note: mQNP is out, for the time being. One of the reasons is that I've got too many other things I want to experiment with (heck, I'm still coming up with ideas!). Another is that it might restrict the number of players interested in the mod. Once I get most of the basics worked out, I'll add it in (or perhaps make 2 Versions of the mod, on with mQNP, and one without). Of coarse, if there is a large public outcry, I could probably be persuaded to put it back on the to do list... ;P

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