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 Shroud doesn't always work like it should even without casting any spells. I have a W9S9 bless and a Tartarian wearing a shroud, but he doesn't have twist fate on him, although he has +4 defense from water bless (don't know about quickness part of the bless, because he's wearing boots). I would attach the file, but it's an MP game, so I can't. |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Psycho  Shroud doesn't always work like it should even without casting any spells. I have a W9S9 bless and a Tartarian wearing a shroud, but he doesn't have twist fate on him, although he has +4 defense from water bless (don't know about quickness part of the bless, because he's wearing boots). I would attach the file, but it's an MP game, so I can't. |  Hi,
 
Was there ever a follow-up on this? I am seeing the same thing with a S9 pretender. My prophet shows Twist Fate, but a mage with the shroud (#54) does not. Playing version 3.21 (Nov  5 2008 19:32:23).
 
I searched the bug discussion and the short list of bugs, but maybe I am overlooking something....
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 I didn't send the files to Illwinter. But, if I remember correctly, the case was that the Tartarian (and any other SCs I had) didn't get twist fate when I put the shroud on him, but after a turn of wearing the shroud the twist fate icon appeared. I don't know if this means that the twist fate effect wasn't up, or that just the icon didn't appear. |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Psycho  I didn't send the files to Illwinter. But, if I remember correctly, the case was that the Tartarian (and any other SCs I had) didn't get twist fate when I put the shroud on him, but after a turn of wearing the shroud the twist fate icon appeared. I don't know if this means that the twist fate effect wasn't up, or that just the icon didn't appear. |  Twist Fate is refreshed on casting of appropriate spell, or during one of the magic phases of turn resolution.  I'm sure this is to avoid some sort of potential exploit.  Regardless, it is WAD, and it should appear the next turn without fail (unless it absorbs a Seeking Arrow or something, then you still won't see it, but it will have saved you!). |  
	
		
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