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Old July 7th, 2008, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Thoughts on balancing MA Oceania

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Bishop fish should be a good counter to both EA Oceania knights as well as Agatha statues.

A Knight of the Deeps (KotD) has base MR of 14, so the odds of successfully connecting with a Smite are only 18%. If, of course, the EA Oceania player didn't take an Astral bless.

But let's assume he didn't and that conditions are ideal, i.e. the battle takes place in a Magic-3 province. The KotD MR drops to 12, so each Bishop Fish has a fighting 30% chance to connect. But the KotD has 16hp, so a Smite will only one-shot-kill a KotD about 86% of the time.

So - under absolutely conditions - only 30% * 86% = 25.8% of the Smites will work. Under normal conditions, 18% * 86% = 15.5% will work. And that's before factoring in the effects of any Astral or Nature (i.e. regen) bless.

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If the above were true, then your problems with Ma Oceania might have nothing to do with MA Oceania being hopelessly weak.
I don't like this, it's argumentative & borderline insulting.
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Default Re: Thoughts on balancing MA Oceania

Cleveland,

I am shocked and surprised that you consider my comments to be "borderline insulting". There is nothing further from my intentions and to misrepresent it as such is not helpful. I have prefaced my comments by saying that I could be completely wrong and that my conclusion was "... MAY have nothing to do with Oceania being hopeless weak." and only "IF" my reasoning was right. In fact, my conclusion is only a logical conclusion IF my reasoning is correct. It is completely neutral and has no implied disrespect, much less insult.

I have no doubt that Baalz is an excellent player - his excellent guides provide ample testimony to that. However, that is not to say that one is not allowed to offer a different opinion on specific matters. If you belief that daring to disagree with such an excellent player is "borderline insulting", then I have nothing further to say.

As to your point of Astral bless for EA Oceania, I have considered the possibility but feel that an EA Oceania player is unlikely to take an astral bless as other blesses - water obviously, but even fire and nature - are more beneficial.

As to your comment on the effectiveness of smite on EA Oceania knights, please see my reply to Baalz's post.
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