So no Dominions 4?

[S.R. Krol]

Kraftwerk said:
That its a good game in a sea of sub par titles.

So you admit at least that it's a good game?

Not to mention if you dropped the price 15 dollars or so, so it was 45 bucks, youd sell alot more. 3x45 is more than 1x60.

And if we dropped the price to a $1 we could sell SIXTY TIMES MORE COPIES, right? Oh wait, 60x1 isn't very helpful. But at least more people would be playing, right?

Why $45? Why not $50? Why not $40? Why not $43.82? So we drop it to $45 then someone comes along and goes, "You're fleecing your customers! If you dropped the price to $30 you'd sell a lot more. 5x30 is more than 3x45."

Why am I getting a sense of deja vu with this conversation?)

After a short burst of interest, they move on to a game they can all play together.

To all the folks playing MP games on this board has everyone shot their wad with their "short burst of interest"? Or are you still playing?

Grognards, enthusiasts, previous fans, and people starving for a quality game will, and if thats your goal, awesome, more power to yah Rockefellar

Hey, who leaked our business plan?

So, you think it's a good game but don't like what we charge for it...that sums it up, right? That's fine, to each his own.

[Kraftwerk]

So you admit at least that it's a good game?

Of course its a great game, but I can throw away more money than the average joe on a risk. And I had to throw away what to most people is a fair price at best for games that are considerably better developed. If you care about where your money goes after it leaves your hands, and yeah i know, most consumers are idiots, doesnt mean we all are, then you think about what the costs break down to...if you know a game that costs millions to produce (though it breaks down to several dollars a produced copy), sells at 50 dollars a piece, you would expect, much like every other market on other, that if the production cost of an item is less than millions, to cost less as a result.

And if we dropped the price to a $1 we could sell SIXTY TIMES MORE COPIES, right? Oh wait, 60x1 isn't very helpful. But at least more people would be playing, right?


Why $45? Why not $50? Why not $40? Why not $43.82? So we drop it to $45 then someone comes along and goes, "You're fleecing your customers! If you dropped the price to $30 you'd sell a lot more. 5x30 is more than 3x45."

Why be the only company that sells a product for 20% more than everyone else on earth? From paradox, to malfador, their prices are reasonable, what makes you different. Why are people paying an extra 15-25 dollars more for your game, than any other game in the same category, independant 4x games.

Paradoxs EU3 is already cheaper.

And its 3d.

Hey, who leaked our business plan?

So, you think it's a good game but don't like what we charge for it...that sums it up, right? That's fine, to each his own.

Youre like starbucks (who is failing miserably now). Theres no actual reason that your product costs more than the exact same product elsewhere, youre just smug. A good idea, implemented into a consumer base in the richest country on earth, internetonia, priced for maximum profit, without any consideration to the actual value of the product.

When this recession sets in more, youll drop your prices, because no one will be buying frivilous entertainment. Might as well have a nice large community base on which to sell budget expansions too.

You guys make so many patches with new content, you should consider going on steam, selling the game for vastly cheaper, and sell the patches as episodic content.

[Leif_-]

Kraftwerk said:
Why are people paying an extra 15-25 dollars more for your game, than any other game in the same category, independant 4x games.

Why indeed. Careful, Kraftwerk. You're precariously close to starting down on the road to wisdom.

[JimMorrison]

No, it's not 15 cents a cup. It's espresso, people don't go to those shops to save money, they go there because it's NOT the same coffee, and it's NOT the same assembly line atmosphere.

Am I bombarded by the same mass media that you are? I doubt it. I'll make one simple point - you have a TV. This is just a guess, but if it's true, it means you watch it, and while that doesn't make you some sort of mind-slave, it makes you much more immersed in the mass media than I am.

And what has this to do with pop culture? I love pop culture. I love shouting out things like "But what about the RUM?", and "Down the garbage chute flyboy!" at appropriate times. Do I like watercolor paintings of Campbell's soup cans? Not so much, but I do like wacky experimental electronica.

You DO pay out the wazoo for the "print" of a painting. Those things you get dirt cheap are called "posters", and they are certainly not "print" quality. The "poster" version of Dominions might be called a "demo", you should give it to your friends.

Pop culture is the fruit, mass media is the farmer. I'll let you figure that one out yourself, since you take offense to me belittling your intelligence.


In case you hadn't noticed, the prevailing, substantiated, and overwhelming opinion around here is that the current price for Dominions 3 IS in fact a reasonable price. This is not some sort of logical debate, where if you just pull another rabbit out of your arse, you will bend the laws of physics. This is reality, it's not going to change for you that easily.

[Tichy]

JimMorrison said:
but I do like wacky experimental electronica.

Hear hear! I propose that this become a discussion of very good beer, bracing coffee snobbery, and Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece!

All in favor?