So no Dominions 4?

[Amhazair]

JimMorrison said:

You should get the Morimoto Soba if you can, it is -amazing-. Also a big fan of the Brutal Bitter, and their Rogue-N-Berry used to be hands down the best berry beer you could get in America, til they cut it because it wasn't as good as Belgian berry beers. o.O


I like this discussion much more than the other.

You gotta love Belgian beers - berry or otherwise. I'm not exactly unhappy about the location my parents decided to move to shortly after I was born.

I wouldn't mind having a taste of your supposedly awesome Oregon produce either, mind you.

[Twan]

Considering the time spent on it without feeling "I have nothing left to do in this game", and the interest endlessly renewed by frequent expansion patches and new players to play with, I can only compare Dominions to a MMO, and fact is 55$ for first copy + nothing each month is an extremely small price, when I payed 10 times more for three years on some games.

[Sombre]

That's a very good point Twan. If I was into a MMO game as much as I am into dominions I'd have paid quite a bit in monthly or yearly subscriptions and received pobably about the same level of support from the devs (in the form of fixes and content adds and whatnot).

[theenemy]

Yes, Dom3 is an expensive indie game. A very expensive indie game(don't let us fool ourselves here). But with all the patches(of which many have been the size of an entire expansion) that the developers so kindly have given to us, it's kinda like getting your money back. I just can't believe that I'm living in the same country(I think ) as the developers of this game. Astrid Lindgren? Yeah, right! Alfred Nobel? I don't think so. Illwinter Games are my new heroes!

[Leif_-]

theenemy said:
Astrid Lindgren?[SNIP] I don't think so. Illwinter Games are my new heroes!

"Pretender på tacket", "Thing that should not be på luffen", "Mästerdetektiven Cyclops", "Alla vi barn i Tir na n'Og" "Pippi Vampire Queen går ombord"

[theenemy]

Leif_- said:

"Pretender på tacket", "Thing that should not be på luffen", "Mästerdetektiven Cyclops", "Alla vi barn i Tir na n'Og" "Pippi Vampire Queen går ombord"

Lol Don't forget Mästerdetektiven Priest King Blomkvist or Bröderna Hellbind Heart.

[hoo]

Hail Leif and his economics wisdom. Enjoyed reading his perspective which correctly uses econ models. Maximizing sales kills companies as Leif points out.

I wonder if Shrapnel could bundle some games with Dom 3 to offer a price break but I also guess that so many of their other games are so different there may not be any interest.

Say Dom 3, Scallywag and Falklands war for $100.00? I would guess there would be very few takers but it would be interesting to see how many dom 3 players have bought other Shrapnel titles and if they could be induced to do so? I'd guess the crossover is pretty small with the dom 3 title b/c it's way different from the war sims.

[Gandalf Parker]

I see a common error in some of these posts.

There are game companies who are developers, shelf-ware, and marketing. Then there are game companies who are production for developers, ordering, and publicity. They are two very different business models and you cannot just jump back and forth so dont bother comparing one to the other.

Games which go to a company as an idea, the company helps develop it, they shelf-ware it, they market it with ads are laying out quite abit of money ahead of sales. The developers dont see any profits sometimes for years. Such games tend to have to meet some basic requirements for things like eye-candy and major copy protection and built-in product failure point (I forget the word for it).

Games which are developed by the programmers, then publicized and made available for ordering are available for instant profit sharing with no pay-back timeframe. Personally, the few games Ive loved which shifted from one business-model publisher to the other have let me down. I have no problem with the way Dominions is being marketed (I also do my part to aid in the publiity side). Im not sure if Dom would benefit from switching. Im also very unsure if we the customers would benefit if they shifted.