Battlefield spell + retreating?

[Ming]

I don't play MP but I am intrigued by the discussion.

Xieter, does your rules mean that retreating on turn5 after MOD is allowed?

[Xietor]

Yes.

Otherwise, there would have to be a statement before the game started that a high level air spell was banned. What I did in Kingmaker was use a clever Mod written by Twan that made the spell have a fixed duration.

Absent the mod, I did not want to ban Mists of deception completely. But the mod is the perfect answer. Keeps the powerful air spell in the game, and removes the exploit completely.

[Zeldor]

Oh no, MoD is another category That 5 turn rule goes for Fire Storm, Wrathful Skies etc...

[Ming]

Thanks for the replies. I presume that the mod still gives MoD 30 turns or more - otherwise it would be somewhat weak.

[llamabeast]

I think the mod gives something like 9 turns at an increased rate of phantasm production.

I think Xietor's list is a good one, and I will probably add it to the FAQ for the LlamaServer soon. Games on my server will have such exploits banned, unless the game admin says otherwise at the beginning - this saves the admin having to remember every time. I will also add that you cannot script a mage to casts Mists of Deception and retreat, even after 5 turns. Having watched a battle where an army was killed in this way I just think it's so unfair that it should never happen.

I think/hope pretty much everyone except K will be pleased to have these exploits explicitly banned. Sincere apologies K. However you are always welcome to run games on the LlamaServer, and of course I assume that the games you run will un-ban the exploits.

[Tifone]

Xietor said:
K is in law school!

Of course he plays the devil's advocate. All good law students do.

Now, now, I am a Law University student, but when I'm talking about any matter, I don't make "style exercises" trying to convince everybody else of what they don't think simply to prove the strenght of my words ^_^ And I hope K is not doing that to us too or it would be quite disrespectful. But I'm sure he doesn't.

@ llama,

Thanks for clarifying the NAPs to me, and for your authority opinion in our discussion