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July 13th, 2008, 09:03 AM
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Re: Throne of Heroes
Riddick should be fer, fer, fer.. MA Man! Hmm, that doesn't actually sound too thematic, but I can't think of a better team so that's my answer for now.
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July 13th, 2008, 09:49 AM
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Re: Throne of Heroes
Riddick
Abilities:
Darkvision 100
blind-should he get blind? he seems to possess the ability to fight with sense as well as sight. Especially in the 2nd movie.
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July 13th, 2008, 10:43 PM
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Re: Throne of Heroes
Hmm, although I do tend to go for less silly things, I must admit having riddick runing around would be fun
Although it's still in the concept stage, would there any chance of possiblly making it not conflict with worthy heroes, as I'm a sucker when it comes to content I'd proberly end up fixing it myself but I tend to lose track of numbers half way through fixing.
Either way, like I said more content(ie heroes)= yay!
Besides, if you put riddick in, you have to put Bruce Campbell as Ash from evil dead, make him part of ...hmm...undead hating nation A?
I don't know, all I know is I want to tear it up with my SC Ash and his chainsaw hand 
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July 14th, 2008, 12:02 AM
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Re: Throne of Heroes
It will definitely conflict with Worthy Heroes. You would play one or the other. But this mod will only cover the middle era in any event.
But since there are many many vanilla heroes for the Middle Era already, it will also be very similar to Worthy Heroes.
In general, the Heroes will be a bit more useful in the mid to late game, as their abilities will translate better, and they will be tougher in general.
Though the vanilla heroes KO made recently for Agartha, Eriu, and a few other races are tough already. But
with a little imagination, we can adjust the backgrounds of some of these human heroes so they are not so fragile.
I am compiling a complete list of vanilla heroes for the middle age, and will publish it in the next day or two. Basically i am making test games, luck 3, clicking through 200 turns per race. That takes a bit of time, but should give me 95 percent of the heroes or more.
Many races do not need any heroes at all-the existing heroes just need tweaked. Then you have some races that have no vanilla game heroes at all(:
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July 14th, 2008, 04:14 AM
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Re: Throne of Heroes
I love Riddick and I love Ash-I own all the Evil Dead movies (including the one with the Necronomicon case, I keep worrying the battery's gonna die though, cause I actually use it as a prop on Halloween...), Pitch Black, and the special director's cut of Chronicles. Honestly though, adding Riddick would be a whole lot of fun, right until he got stomped on by an elephant, unless it's done within the context of the realities of the game. It might be slightly less satisfying, but ultimately a whole lot less anticlimactic, if you were to create an independent population type of basically darkvisioned Wolf Tribe double-dagger warriors who live underground, call them Furyans, and have them led by a hero named Riddick. It would still be a nice easter-egg.
Maybe somebody can convince the Devs to allow us to add more Bogus-type adventure squads into the game? I think that's an awesome feature to have put into the game, I'm sure we could have a lot of fun adding to that. It would be amazing to witness Ash show up and chainsaw the hell out of Late Ermor. Or Hellboy, Abe Sapien, Liz Sherman, Lobster Johnson, and Roger the Homonculus take the piss out of LA R'lyeh. Or I keep hoping they'll let us do mercenaries, too. I really enjoy the ones we have already-and I always try to get the Ettin. Imagine how much fun it might be to hire a few Protoss led by Fenix?
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July 14th, 2008, 10:35 AM
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Re: Throne of Heroes
Throne of Heroes-List of Vanilla heroes complete.
The 1st step to creating a mod to make heroes for the middle era is to get a complete list of what heroes already exist in the base game.
Throne of Heroes will not remove any base game hero-but tweak them to make them a thug. Old age will be removed, new abilities added. In general, basically what Turin did with Worthy Heroes, but upped a bit.
A glance at the list below shows several races need no new heroes. However, volunteers are needed to create heroes for bandar log and Oceania who have zero heroes! Shinuyama only has one.
Vanheim and Caelum need new heroes. Dr. P has agreed to work on Tien Chi. Atlantis could use some help.
An interesting thought for a MA Man hero is something from the Robert Jordan books. KO said Man was based on the Robert Jordan Books and King Arthur. Just a thought.
I would love to see a Yeti made for caelum. While I have a Yeti as an Epic Hero, there is room for more than one Yeti!
But I may make a Yeti myself if no one volunteers.
1. Arcoscephale:
Pathos- Son of Titans (954)
Asterios- Monster in the Maze (1089)
Orokestes –Hierophant (587)
Daidalos- Maker of the Maze (1073)
Multihero:
2 Ashdod
Shashai, first son of Anak (2048)
Ahiman , second son of Anak (2047)
Talmai, third son of Anak(2049)
3. Abysia
Chuzrael the Slayer(867)
Rago, Rage Lord(539)
Ba’ al Chozron, Anathemant Warlock (581)
4. Agartha
Klaus, Mason of the Underworld (1848)
Golag, Decrepit (1847)
Kin-Breaker, Onyx Oracle (1846)
Multihero
5. Atlantis
-Chuddar Kadul, Seer King (558)
-Shudul Cthuda, Coral Prince (373)
Multihero
6. Bandar Log
None Found!
7. Caelum:
-Zaelinys, Harab Seraphine(557)
-Caelos, Sacred One (556)
Multihero:
8. C`tis
Niklatu, Lizard Hero (379)
Urugallu, Lizard Hero (380)
Murmur, Guild Master (585)
Kabti’ili, Ancient Shaman (635)
9. Eriu
Tuan, Last Partholonian(1794)
Ferdiad, Fir Bolg Hero (1777)
Cu Chulainn, Hero (1778)
Scathach, Trainer of Heroes(1844)
Multihero
Mathghamhain, Fianna(1806)
10. Ermor:
-Zirru, Grand Thaumaturg(977)
-Mortius Scythe Wielder (868)
Multihero:
11. Jotunheim
-Tjatse, Abductor (1382)
-Angerboda, Great Hag (586)
-Sporsnjall, Wolf Lord (508)
12. Machaka
Mchumba, Ape Oracle (1706)
Ainra, Lady of Spiders (946)
Abasi, Hero(952)
Yasini, King Triumphant (953)
Mwaka, Crowned Ape (1426)
13. Man
-Bernlad, Green Knight (376)
-Rhianne, Heroine (381)
-Brangwen, Blind One (582)
Multihero
-Knight of the Stone (58)
14. Marignon
Angelique d'Armant (588)
Carmont, Cardinal (583)
Tomaso del Monferrada, Witch Hunter General (589)
15. Mictlan:
Mixcoatl, Priest King (1886)
Topiltzin, Priest King (1884)
Mictlipoctli, King of Legends (933)
16. Oceania
None Found!
17. Pangaea
Taurotyrannos, Black Bull (611)
Rams Head, White Satyr (770)
Arcopythera, Harpy Queen (614)
Menopathos, White Minotaur (540)
18. Pythium
Marius Lorca, Hero(505)
Hierogallus, Hero (Serpent Lord)(506)
Bartholomäus, Patriarch (584)
Multihero
Master of the Games(37)
19. R'lyeh
Auluudh, Aboleth(660)
Cthugul, Stargazer (560)
Shubejc, Visitor (1408)
N’gai, Traitor Prince (444)
20. Shinuyama
Yukinaga, Heart Hider(1670)
21. Tien Chi
Lu Tung Pin, immortal (943)
Ho Hsien-KU, immortal (942)
Li Tìeh-Kua, Master with Iron Crutch (944)
22. Ulm
Raterik the Hero (378)
Hildegard the Heroine (507)
Barthulf the Hero (377)
23. Vanheim
Vanlade, Hero (590)
Farbaute, Hero (544)
Multihero
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July 14th, 2008, 10:42 AM
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Re: Throne of Heroes
See my post in the other thread re: the complete list.
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