Our beloved Pretenders!

[Xietor]

He still needs a good bit of work on his descr., but the shield will have to stay. While he usually hunts with his bow,
now that he is coming out of the forests to establish world domination, he has decided that a one handed spear and shield combo is superior to the 2hed boar spear.

Taking away his hand slots is a very good idea! I like it.
That way I do not have to worry about someone giving him a charcoal shield and him still having entangle. May give him an extra misc to compensate.

[thejeff]

The only trouble with taking away hand slots is limiting path boosters. Thistle mace at least since he has Nature.

[Tifone]

Mmh, that pretender seems so much a SC, i think it would be a very big opportunity-cost to set him on casting. But it isn't up to me questioning how a player wants to use his pretender god

I was just thinking about some people playing a noble born Samurai in some RPGs, which stop using the Ancient Katana of the Family Clan and Ancestors of their character, because the Flaming Barbarian Axe they just found gives more damage. I mean, that's just unthematic so maybe Xietor would like his creation always mantaining the thematic hunter's and nature weapons of his character, instead of a charcoal shield and tartarian chains o.O If this solves him even some technical problems, even better ^_^

[thejeff]

Probably not battle casting, there he'd be more useful as an SC, but there are times outside of battle when you might want him to cast summons or forge things your native mages can't. It would nice if he could use a hammer, for example.

You might just want to give boost him in Nature so he can cast Faery Trod to get to the front.

It's a limitation, that should be kept in mind. That's all.

[Tifone]

Anyway, a thing like that would be really unbalanced in the basegame

[MaxWilson]

Meh, I don't care as much about balance as thematicness and coolness. Balance can be fixed by changing point costs. Besides, I would like Man to have a strong pretender.

-Max

[Tifone]

Totally right Max. Thematicness and coolness. That was what I was talking about when I opened the thread, I must admit for first I was driven elsewhere ^_^

[cleveland]

MaxWilson said:
I would like Man to have a strong pretender.

[Zeldor]

Hmm... anyone knows what "fimbultyr" is? That is one of the titles available for pretender. And google gives me only some metal band...

[Endoperez]

Wikipedia claims:
The prefix 'fimbul' means "the great/big" so the correct interpretation of the word is "the great winter".

The name Tyr meant "god" (cf. Hangatyr, the "god of the hanged" as one of Odin's names; probably inherited from Tyr in his role as judge) and goes back to a Proto-Germanic T�waz, earlier Teiwaz, continuing Proto-Indo-European *deywos "god" (whence Latin: deus, Sanskrit: deva and Lithuanian: dievas).

From articles about Fimbulwinter (Illwinter, three winters without summer in-between that mark the beginning of Ragnar�k) and T�r (the one-handed god of single combat).