Our beloved Pretenders!

[cleveland]

MaxWilson said:
I would like Man to have a strong pretender.

[Wrana]

Something along these lines from my non-finished mod which splits LA Bogarus nation:
#newmonster 2049
#name "The Great Bear"
#descr "The Father of All Bears is an enormous beast with shaggy fur. Just a slap
of his paw can easily send several men flying and his roar is terrifying to hear. He is seen by his subjects as a manifestation of primal forces of nature, but he also
possesses a surprising cunning and wisdom and is said to be able to converse with spirits.
The Bear is somewhat lazy, but beginning wars of other Pretenders cause him to rise from his slumber and understand that he may only have his rest if he banishes them all..."
#pathcost 60
#startdom 3
#copyspr 1951
#ap 22
#mapmove 2
#hp 181
#prot 16
#size 6
#str 30
#enc 3
#att 15
#def 10
#prec 8
#mr 18
#mor 30
#gcost 90
#rcost 1
#weapon "Paw"
#weapon "Paw"
#eyes 2
#magicbeing
#coldres 50
#forestsurvival
#startage 1000
#ageold 1500
#heal
#fear 5
#berserk 6
#magicskill 3 1
#magicskill 5 1
#magicskill 6 1
#itemslots 28672
---3 miscs
#goodleader
#okmagicleader
#restrictedgod 71
#selectnametype 146
#end

(it can be somewhat changed still, and I probably will modify a picture to add a crown on bear's head. Paw attack has aoe 1 - I wanted to avoid trample here. There is also a thought to add Polar Bear as well - with probably Water and Nature as magic paths...)

[Tifone]

A big black bear and a polar bear? Interesting! It reminds me somehow the two great bulls pretenders, which I personally love for their flavour.
The idea of an AoE paw which kills several men at once is very nice. The (mental) image of this great bear sending people fly around with its furious hits is epic - I think this Pretender would fit very well Marverni too. But aren't AoE attacks not influenced by strenght? This would be weird applied to the bear, as it is definitively its strenght to send people around...

P.S. nooo, please, no crown on a bear, noo, please. it stops being a king and becomes the dancing bear of the old gypsy circuses if you really want to make him appear dominant, a giant alpha male, you could maybe consider giving him a mane of dishevelled, wild black hairs around his neck and shoulders (not as a lion but quite, you got the idea) Just my humble suggestion of course

[Sombre]

Tifone said:
The idea of an AoE paw which kills several men at once is very nice. The (mental) image of this great bear sending people fly around with its furious hits is epic - I think this Pretender would fit very well Marverni too. But aren't AoE attacks not influenced by strenght? This would be weird applied to the bear, as it is definitively its strenght to send people around...

Aoe attacks use strength unless stated otherwise.

They never use attack.

[Tifone]

Sombre said:
Aoe attacks use strength unless stated otherwise.

They never use attack.

Ouh sorry. My bad.

[MaxWilson]

cleveland said:

That was in response to a comment that Xietor's new pretender for Man might be totally unbalanced in base game.

-Max

[Xietor]

Umm, no. The Master of the Hunt would certainly not unbalance the base game. He is not a Gorgon after all. And we are not talking about this pretender for MA Ermor or Pythium either.