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Old July 18th, 2008, 04:09 AM
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Default OT Warfare after the last drop of oil.

OK, we're all used to the "war/oil" thing. And from time to time (depending on the price of oil) we hear about the limited oil reserves etc. So let's assume for a minute that we run out of oil somewhere in the not so far future. What would be the nature of warfare after the "last drop of oil"? (BTW isn't it interesting that there is no reference to "post oil" combat systems/vehicles, even as "brainstorming" projects, at least I've not stumbled on anything similar on the net, maybe the oil reserves aren't so limited after all! )
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Default Re: OT Warfare after the last drop of oil.

Batteries.
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Default Re: OT Warfare after the last drop of oil.

Fuel cells. Or synthetic fuels. Or biodiesel
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Default Re: OT Warfare after the last drop of oil.

Actually vegetal substitutes are the better solution. They could be used for diesel engines with little modifications.

For the fuel cells even if it's technically possible, the fuel needed (methanol, hygrogen and other low molecular weight compound) are not truly useful for military. To highly volatile,flammable and/or explosive.
Special dedicace for the hydrogen, this nasty thing could easily pass through metallics and plastic tanks .
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Default Re: OT Warfare after the last drop of oil.

No chance of running out of OIL any time in the next few thousand years. The OIL shortage is 100% political.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_shale_reserves
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"world-wide technically-recoverable reserves have recently been estimated at about 2.8-3.3 trillion barrels of shale oil, with the largest reserves in the United States, which is thought to have 1.5-2.6 trillion barrels."
That is at the price per barrel (ppb) when this article was written. As the price goes up, so does the amount of shale OIL that is economical recoverable.

82,234,918 bbl/day is the consumption figure as of this article;
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...il-consumption

Please note that the figures they use are based on liquid OIL. No other form of hydrocarbons are used.
Rounding 82 million goes into 3.3 Trillion about 40,000 times, rounded down. That works out to about 110 years, unless I forgot to carry the one someplace.
Anyway, there is plenty of OIL.
OIL being decomposed dinosaurs is a theory as dead as the dinosaurs. It died the first time Exxon Mobil drilled down below the zone were the dead dinos could have gotten too. It died again When OIL was discovered on a moon of Juipter ( or Saturn, I forget which).
The theory gaining ground nowdays is that OIL is produced by the heat and pressure of the crust sliding over the mantel.
You understand that when a CD rotaes the outer edge travels faster then the inner edge. There is a mathamatical ratio ( Bournelli's Law, I think) that covers the relative speeds based on Radi. Anyway, the earth doesn't adhere to that calculation, so there is a speed variation greater then the one that should be there. So the crust is sliding across the mantel as the whole thing spins around. It would fly apart if it wasn't lubricated. So a lubricant is created thru a natural procees. We call that lubricant OIL.
Or at least that's the theory.
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