Dominions trivia [listed, revised]

[Wrana]

Well, I would think that direct confirmation by KO is sure enough!
Of course, if someone does exhaustive testing of this and post full translation, it would be much better. But this would be better than nothing - and the fact at least that it allows to know Pretender's Dominion score can be useful for those who are new to MP. It surely was for me and my allies!

[Kristoffer O]

Titles are dependent on:

Nation
Scales
Magic
Dominion strength

And combinations of all above.
Most are magic dependent with a requisite of 4 and above.
Creator of the Moon and other mighty-sounding titles have higher requisites (astral and earth in this case IIRC).

There are some that are not dependent on anything.

Basically you can guess a bit of a pretenders just by looking at his name.

[Wrana]

Thanks another time.

[Gandalf Parker]

Hmm I wonder if the trick of adding a title to my name might slip by and cause an opponent to misguess my stats? Is there a title that says "low astral magic" that I could tack on and hope the "high astral magic" doesnt get added?

If I try the same god-build multiple times and finally get the titles I want, do they hold for each game I put that god into?

[Zeldor]

Of course it won't work, if you add your own title it will be a part of the name, obvious thing.

[Tifone]

I'm almost sure they don't. Saved pretender built with the Pretender creation tool, imported in different games, gave me different titles, I'm quite sure of it.

[Wrana]

You can be sure of whatever you want to. But these titles have quite obvious meanings. And they are readable enough to correctly guess most features of enemy Pretenders. At least for me they are.
And considering "your own title" - of course, it can be flashy enough to warm your heart. But it is easily parted from the titles your Pretender gets for his paths and scales. The way to do it is to look up the name in "Pretenders of the world". Here all titles you give yourself are included in the name itself. So looking in the nation stats, your crafty opponent just drops those he already seen above from those meaning of which he's interested in. Much more obvious than your "of course", Zeldor.
Considering Gandalf's question - I think no. There are titles that mean Astral magic. And if there are enough of them, I guess it's high Astral. The best way to conceal your abilities which exists there is to take low Dominion as this means less titles. However, this has drawbacks of its own. Another possibility that exists is that if the Pretender has high enough Dominion, he may get more titles relating to his path(s) than his score in it would suggest - if his scales are mostly neutral and he has few paths... Nevertheless, it's useful thing. I can't currently find out chassy for sure, but it may be guessed from paths. And I think that more experience (or definitive study) will allow to do it at least sometimes.

[Zeldor]

Wrana:

Of course not was about Gandalfs idea to name his pretender for example Britney, the Rock instead of Britney to make enemy think that he has earth magic there.

[Tifone]

Wrana you misunderstood me - I am quite sure *that the same built doesn't bring always the same titles from one game to another*. I was answering to the 2nd question of Gandalf Parker. But of course they are taken from the list by the parameters listed by KO just not always the same ones

[JimMorrison]

Wrana said:
You can be sure of whatever you want to. But these titles have quite obvious meanings. And they are readable enough to correctly guess most features of enemy Pretenders. At least for me they are.

Well, some of them are fairly obvious, yes. But for example, I remade this particular pretender about 40x in a row, trying to get a title that lacked 2 specific titles, and included 1 specific title. It took many tries, but eventually I got one that was acceptable. It seems to me from the vast variety of titles that I received, that while you can absolutely say a little about any given pretender, you can't easily say a lot.