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			You Shouldn't stack multiple braclets, but it's ok to stack a single braclet with a full armor set.
		
		
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		This is, in my opinion, a fairly minor problem, because there are far more important uses for misc slots than stacking armor. It is a bug, which I should add to the shortlist. Fortunately its effects are minor compared to the since fixed bug which allowed stacking magic boosters and other items. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Wouldnt "hard to counter" mean that it goes on the list as things that you might use against other "hard to counter" tactics? Taking out all of the "hard to counter" things in the game would seem to be counter to balance and a never ending degradation. There will always be something in the hard to counter condition no matter how many you take out. 
 
I think the game benefits from having things that force a nation to have to change their entire strategy in order to build up a counter. And have to balance going too far. Such as shifting to buying all priests to combat an invasion by Ermor. I know that some people would prefer to march their strategically built armies entirely across the map without having to change but Im not sure thats Dom3-ish.  
Maybe this comes down to the game that the strategy players want vs the tactical players. 
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		Again, no one is suggesting taking out "hard to counter" things. In fact, this time it was suggested that it was minor because it wasn't hard to counter. 
 
This particular issue seems to have nothing to do with strategy vs tactics or any other broad issues, except maybe the "anything the game engine allows is good" vs "play as intended, avoid exploiting the broken bits" arguments.  
 
Earth bless stacking on non-armor/helmet protection items seems like, at the very least, an unintended consequence of the changes in the Earth bless and armor mechanics for Dom3. Opposition to using it seems to come from that viewpoint not from any real balance issues 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Has it been confirmed that this is not just a screen display issue?  You should test it and see if your "Prot37" unit really is unhittable.  I've always been suspicious that the reported protection is a display bug, and the actual protection is internally correct. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Even 40 protection doesn't make you immune to damage. I tested a 40 prot unit against indies and he regularly took 3-4 points of damage from broadsword hits. He had 0 fatigue, 0 enc. 40 head, 40 body. 
 
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		Oh and Gandalf - are you posting in the wrong thread or something? Your reply seems to bear no relation to what's being discussed. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Uh uh it would be hilarious if that is true Sombre, because I so agree with him on this topic and in general    really!! ^_^  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I would like to know what the max prot is you could get from this with all the items mentioned 
 
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