Silvan, Running

AreaOfEffect · #1 July 29th, 2008, 01:47 AM

Jim has be quite upset about the submission of my turn as it forced him to make moves he did not intend at the time of submission. Considering this has become a friendly game of three I vote that the game be reset to turn 58. In my understanding this can be done.

IndyPendant · #2 July 29th, 2008, 03:13 AM

Hey now, that's...a bit much. If I did that, I would be deliberately and willingly taking a punch to the jaw before the fight even begins! The only player who would suffer for the rollback would be me, and both my foes would benefit.

How about another option: I only declared war now because I thought (perhaps mistakenly) that's what you wanted. I would be willing to delay the Final War a few more turns, allowing the two of you more time to recover and reorganize from your war, if you think that would help.

We could all build peacefully, giving you two more time to coordinate your plans for taking me out. We could give our orders to attack on Turn 65 for example, invading on Turn 66. Or somewhere in between Turns 62 and 65. That option seems (closer to) fair to me, since what we gain from the delay will largely depend on how effectively we use the extra turns. The gamble for both our sides would be: who will earn the greater benefit?

I am open to other options as well, if you have ideas; I do want to play this out to the end in a way that's fun for all! But I am looking for something that isn't so blatantly to my opponents' advantage. I think that's only reasonable... ; )

--IndyPendant.

JimMorrison · #3 July 29th, 2008, 03:56 AM

I'm okay with however it plays out at this point.

AOE was just requesting the rollback, as I had specifically asked him him my PM to wait for my response before posting a turn, as I had already submitted mine, including aggressive actions that I wasn't going to take back until hearing back from you, Indy.

When he read your post here, he got a bit overexcited and submitted, and his new tricks had a wonderfully synergistic effect with my new scripts, resulting in me murdering many of my own communion members. 8 \

I still do have a lot to work with, but it's not exactly a "benefit" if there is a rollback, more of just a lack of a severe detriment. And I think that AOE would attest that I have more heart than anything, and likely having that additional communion for the final days would do little other than make me feel like I really did all that I could against an experienced and honorable foe.

But again, it was technically our fault and none of your own, so I respect your decision. If there's no rollback, I would definitely appreciate at least a couple of extra turns to reorganize, as we're in the process of disentangling our borders. Of course, with you having the Forge and the Well, it's debatable how much benefit AOE and I gain from extra time. I'm already anticipating a 300 gem Utterdark or some such tomfoolery.

IndyPendant · #4 July 29th, 2008, 04:55 AM

Utterdark? Pish, I'm not thinking that small. ; )

And you're right, part of the reason why I made that offer is that I do think I will gain a greater benefit. I freely admit it! --However, I am not certain that is true--it would allow you two more time to shake down, reorganize, and coordinate for example--and I am (reasonably) certain that if we started the war on Turn 62, I would win.

You've done well with R'lyeh--better than I did in my first MP game with them. And quite frankly, AreaOfEffect has impressed the HELL out of me. I would love to play against either of you again in another game, but after that jaw-dropping comeback against Pangaea, I would be nervous fighting him without, oh, three-to-one odds or so. ; )

I'm not going to do my turn tonight; it's past my bed time as it is. I'll give AoE a chance to respond, see if anything comes up, and submit my turn after work tomorrow.

Most importantly, let's try to have fun!

--IndyPendant.

AreaOfEffect · #5 July 29th, 2008, 12:35 PM

I'm fine with the war starting as soon as turn 62 comes around. In my particular situation it happens to be just enough time. I only requested the rollback because I felt truly sorry about what happened to all those mages. Granted, they had it coming to them (damn nether dart spam).

I'm fine with your stance and the extra time isn't needed on my part. If Jim needs more time beyond turn 62 then I yield to him, otherwise lets get it on.

IndyPendant · #6 August 1st, 2008, 01:15 AM

Heh. Xanthus found his way back from the Void, I see.

And now it begins. In all honesty, I just don't see how the two of you can win against Ermor, with the forces I have arrayed against you. We shall see though! At one point in this game, I sent a friendly-neighbour congratulatory message to Cor2, for Pangaea defeating Mictlan... ; )

Above all, let's have fun!

--IndyPendant.

JimMorrison · #7 August 1st, 2008, 01:32 AM

Well, as you can see, he was a bit "touched". The note that he left his wife implied that he thought the war had already started, and that he was late to meet up with his unit. Officially, our government has no knowledge of this "Void" that you speak of, it's just a rumor.

So this is turn 62 already? Well, bugger. I had thought we were 1 more turn away from the launch of festivities. No bother, I am not going to let my confusion interfere with our fair schedule.

Let's get ready to RUUUUUMMMMBLE!!!

Oh eck. < Wets self, hopes no one can tell underwater. > O.O