Population Resets to Zero

thejeff · #1 July 30th, 2008, 08:48 AM

400+ turns. Wow.
I can't imagine lasting that long. Do you just push Host for most of those, or are you actually playing them out?
By turn 50-60 it usually takes me almost an hour per turn, scripting mages, figuring out what to summon/forge, manuevering armies etc...

MP games never last that long. Gandalf plays huge SP games, but I don't think he plays them out that long. Most people either end with victory conditions or just declare victory.

Edratman · #2 July 30th, 2008, 12:41 PM

Mordici, I bow to your perseverance. They should name a pretender after you: Mordici, Prince of Patience, Persistance and Perseverance.

I quit playing games when my turns take about an hour and a half, which is approximately when I have 100 provinces. (Wish I could get rid of my fascination for massive maps.)

I shudder attempting to imagine the time it takes to get to turn 400.

Loren · #3 July 30th, 2008, 02:05 PM

Argh! I tried to run a test on this. I took the smallest map, Hinnom and plopped on a few AI's. Pretty soon I smashed all the land ones and I was working on upping the PD in all coastal provinces to 125 so I could simply keep submitting the turn.

I wasn't paying enough attention and got dominion-killed.

Edratman · #4 July 30th, 2008, 03:29 PM

Loren, if you want to make another stab, set up one land nation per available land province and yourself as the sole water nation.

I think that should forestall AI expansion for quite a while.

Loren · #5 July 30th, 2008, 11:47 PM

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Edratman said:
Loren, if you want to make another stab, set up one land nation per available land province and yourself as the sole water nation.

I think that should forestall AI expansion for quite a while.

AI Expansion wasn't the problem. I didn't build many temples because I didn't want to dominion-kill the AI and I simply wasn't paying attention and let it dominion-kill me. I had all the land, there was one water nation that couldn't threaten me.

Edratman · #6 July 31st, 2008, 09:58 AM

That is how I understood it. My thought was that if there are many competing AI's as opposed to only one, there won't be a dominant dominion to kill you off while you try for 400+ turns.

Loren · #7 August 2nd, 2008, 08:01 PM

The situation stated in the OP can't happen.

I just reproduced the problem, the reset occurred in the vicinity of 320000 people. I wasn't watching closely as I thought I was a long way from the reset point so I don't have the exact number. I strongly suspect 327670 is the largest possible population. It's year 36.

Note that the gems reset if you go over 32767 gems. They wrap into negative numbers, though--you can't use the gem type until you've collected another 32768 of them.