HINNOM EATS EVERYTHING

[Baalz]

Evilhomer said:
I ended up playing Hinnom recently and it seems even Lanka has trouble dealing with Hinnom. Lanka attacked me around turn 15 but managed to accomplish almost nothing doing so. Perhaps if the player playing lanka had opted for a heavier bless the fight would have been more even, but the fight still seems in favour of Hinnom.

Only nation I see taking out Hinnom in an early fight 1v1 would be Niefelheim (maybe blessed helheim as well due to high defence).

Yeah, that was actually me playing Lanka (with a water bless FWIW). Hinnom's PD stopped a largish raiding party of water blessed Palashankas by itself, there was no way to raid EH with anything short of a powerful army, and *his* powerful army while taking significant casualties didn't have any real problem. I tend to agree with EH that 1 on 1 the only real threat to Hinnom, and that's really just early on as Neifel doesn't grow in power over time like Hinnom.

[konming]

A group of 8 W4E9N4 blessed oriopata easily dispatched 26 Hinnom PD with no problem or casaulty.

[MaxWilson]

E9 is probably the key there. I bet the W9 Palankashas fatigued out.

-Max

[Loren]

The Lords of Civilization have a corrupt order. I tried it for no visible result but when I later attacked the province the defenders instantly routed and I couldn't find a commander amongst them.

Did it make the commander leave? Did it send the commander to my capital like seduction would have? (Had that happened it would have died.)

[Baalz]

Corruption is a gender neutral seduction. It doesn't do anything if there are no commanders in the province. Haven't done too much testing, but seems to work much more effectively than seduction, I think it worked like 6/6 times against crap commanders when I tested it out.

[Ming]

Baalz,

Hinnom PD only have one 11 attack each vs 16 def for W9 blessed Lanka elite with no experience star (15% hit rate), which should give Lanka enough kills to rout the PD before fatigue becomes a significant factor. You must have been unlucky or greatly outnumbered (2:1 or more) to fail in your raid ... or was it the great bows and banishment that caused the damage?

Oriopata is definitely much more efficient in this match-up due to its higher defense and E9 makes it even more so.

Personally I would rank Sauromatia as Hinnom's #1 threat, followed by Niefel (this is largely based on other people's opinion and my analysis of its troops only as I have not played Niefel myself), then Helheim (also based on analysis only), followed by Kalissa, Formoria, and Lanka. Everybody else (that I know - have only played about half of the EA nations so far) will have major problems facing Hinnom.

[chrispedersen]

A water blessed (only) Lanka is insufficient against hinnom. You need to boost D/T. F/W bless, F/D Bless should be sufficient.

Also, many nations stop in the 20~ range with pd. With Hinnom, even with the expense, I believe its cost effective it even up to 30~ish.

I've played hinnom vs each of the races as myself.
Sauromatia *easily* takes hinnom. After that theres a big drop off.

[SlipperyJim]

Ming said:
Personally I would rank Sauromatia as Hinnom's #1 threat....

chrispedersen said:
Sauromatia *easily* takes hinnom.

Despite having played Dom3 for years now, all of my experience is SP, and I still consider myself a relative n00b. With that in mind, would anyone care to explain how Sauromatia is such a deadly threat to Hinnom?

I've played Sauromatia once. If I recall correctly, their two main strengths are excellent archery and deadly cavalry. Sauromatia's priests stink, and their magic is limited (but nice). Hydras are powerful, but hard to use. When I played Sauromatia, they seemed like a powerful -- but not overwhelming -- nation.

What makes Sauromatia the ideal Hinnom-killer?