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July 31st, 2008, 06:23 AM
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
Cost is relative. If they can take out your expensively equipped seraph (with sickle probably over 200 gems!) you might find a few dozen gems on various mage-killing spells quite a cheap alternative.
I know some assassination spells fail on units with glamour, but I don't know whether that is the result of glamour or stealth.
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July 31st, 2008, 07:24 AM
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
Yes he was over 200 gems with the ones he just got from sickle. The problem is that no assassination spells work on stealthy units when they hide. The only things that I know that work are mind hunt (but these are astral mages) and fires from afar, flames from the sky and murdering winter which are too expensive for what they'll do.
Hiding really shouldn't be an instantaneous order.
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July 31st, 2008, 07:30 AM
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
If you have Blood magic, maybe you can send a Dream Horror to the province you know they're in? If that works, it could cause him some serious problems. 
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July 31st, 2008, 08:34 AM
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
Well after they attack you they must be visible for at least that turn, mustn't they? So wait till they show themselves again and nail them.
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July 31st, 2008, 08:36 AM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
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llamabeast said:
Well after they attack you they must be visible for at least that turn, mustn't they? So wait till they show themselves again and nail them.
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The turn you can see it is the turn you cannot attack it. Because stealth order is executed before magic phase.
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July 31st, 2008, 09:21 AM
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
Are you sure that assassination spells always fail to find stealthy units? It seems to work half the time for me.
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July 31st, 2008, 09:32 AM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
Mind hunt does find stealthy units. Seeking arrow and earth attack surely do not.
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July 31st, 2008, 02:53 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
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konming said:
Quote:
llamabeast said:
Well after they attack you they must be visible for at least that turn, mustn't they? So wait till they show themselves again and nail them.
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The turn you can see it is the turn you cannot attack it. Because stealth order is executed before magic phase.
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Stealth should probably be executed after magic phase so you have a chance at magiking those bastards. I'm just beginning to appreciate exactly how extremely powerful stealth commanders really are.
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July 31st, 2008, 03:05 PM
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
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Horror seed? Leprosy?
Your own stealthers with bane venom charm or built in "Reaper" effect?
If its in your provinces, set up some watchers/call of the winds for upkeep free patrollers?
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July 31st, 2008, 08:34 AM
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Re: How to attack stealthy astral mages?
Psycho, if hide is not an instantaneous order every stealth unit becomes useless, because he unveils and attacks when arrives in enemy province!!! ^_^
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