Alien Contact Covered Up

[BlueTemplar]

After some research:
It would seem that the French "X-Files" were done by incompetent people, whose studies were at best incomplete and not scientific, and all dispositions were taken to prevent the document's studies by their peers for several YEARS. These people were furthermore engaging the whole CNES reputation by saying that there was undeniable proof some aliens had visited earth.

Now maybe it's the result of not taking seriously the UFO reports (maybe they deserved some real attention, not just denigration?) that these kind of people were put in charge of the whole departement.

Links: (use your favourite translator, Google translation looks good enough)
http://www.unice.fr/zetetique/articl...e_au_CNES.html
http://www.unice.fr/zetetique/articl...AN_GEIPAN.html
http://www.observatoire-zetetique.or...n=1&ecritId=37

[narf poit chez BOOM]

BlueTemplar: My understanding is, that number is an estimate and 300,000 was the last number I heard, about a year ago, for galaxies actually seen and counted.

[BlueTemplar]

Of course it's an estimate, but I doubt it's wrong by more than 1-3 orders of maginitude...

The most recent article I could find after a quick search is from 2003:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/07/22/stars.survey/

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/TopazMurray.shtml
http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/~gmackie/billions.html

Looks like the author has the same point of view as me about life in the universe:
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Extrat...ial%20life.htm

[Caduceus]

There probably is alien life - viral, protein (a la spongiform encephalopathy), perhaps even bacterial or protozoal. It is many orders of magnitude higher to have multicellular organisms in a functioning ecosystem.

Intelligent life? That's a BIG maybe.

Intelligent life? Sure, could have happened 10 billion years ago, now gone, or 10 billion years from now, we'll never know.

Wasting your time to come to our planet? There has to be better stuff out there than us.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I wasn't contesting; I was stating.

[BlueTemplar]

IMHO it's again a problem of probability, if even one in a million planets with life develops intelligent life, and even if the average lifetime of intelligent life is only one million years, that's still MANY civilisations out there. Some of them (even with the hypothesis that you cannot exceed the speed of light) might have grown to become space empires.

And considering the timescales of the universe, if there's at least one space empire in our galaxy, there's a good chance that at least some of their space probes already know about us. Now, I really doubt that if this is the case, that they will bother with all the crap the "UFO-green men-conspiracy" people pretend they do - unless, as I have stated in the IRC, their favorite form of sport is "Confuse the Earthling".

[Xrati]

There could be life forms out there that we wouldn't even recognize as 'life forms'. We seem to relate only to things we understand. Given the vastness and numerical quantities of possibilities, there is other life forms out there. We find new life forms on this planet constantly!!! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon12.gif[/img]