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August 1st, 2008, 02:06 PM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
Right, being able to kill 300 undead is a mitigator to get you further into midgame (you can survive one failed MR check). It's not immunity to VotD like the Ark is.
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August 1st, 2008, 07:54 PM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
Hmmm I would think a quickened hastened charcoal shielded regenerating trampler would do much more.
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August 2nd, 2008, 02:01 AM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
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Hmmm I would think a quickened hastened charcoal shielded regenerating trampler would do much more.
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This trampler has to be undead or elemental royalty with base encumberance 0. Undead are immune to VotD.
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August 2nd, 2008, 03:00 AM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
You don't actually have to be enc 0. It's possible to kit out a Size 5 Adonim, for instance, so that he can trample 3 or 4 squares worth of size 2 troops per turn without ever going above fatigue 14.
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August 2nd, 2008, 03:35 AM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
You're missing the point K. VOTD the above mentioned or similar. I believe he could take out 600 or more undead in 50 turns.
Roughly (50x18) = 900 squares of movement. = 600 squares of units. Plus the charcoal square will kill a good bit.
Sure, you lose a turn for hastened...
Equip or cast items that generate battle field effects. wrathful skies... You could do a lot more.
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August 2nd, 2008, 01:34 PM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
Where does 50x18 come from? Size 5 trampling Size 2 is 3/4 squares of trampling per turn, regardless of base AP.
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August 2nd, 2008, 07:57 PM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
Undead Mastery would work pretty well, I think.
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August 2nd, 2008, 10:59 PM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
Interesting. Where do you get that?
I presumed quickened and hasted, and properly booted that the SC would have 36 move or so, translating into a maximum of 18 squares per turn of trampling.
Each square could have numerous size 2 opponents - that is true. However, I also ignore the fact that the defender could succed at avoiding being trampled. The 50 just refers to the # of turns.
And yes, of course I agree undead master would work - however, it is late in the game.
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August 3rd, 2008, 12:16 AM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
I'm not sure how the movement is calculated Chris, but a 36 move critter will not trample 18 squares a turn, that would be..... insanely overpowered in most situations.
Also, that much trampling is enormously exhausting. It's not frolicking in a field, it's smashing bodies with your feet - even harder than squashing grapes, and ask anyone, it's hard work making wine. 
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August 3rd, 2008, 06:06 AM
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Re: VOTD-Still like it
Non-undead trampler will get too much exauston and fail.
Undead are immune.
'Honeypot' fails.
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