Did you know that? (Dominions trivia)

MaxWilson · #1 August 7th, 2008, 12:51 PM

NTJedi thinks it will always be in the province which has the Arena site. I'm confused though because I think I may have seen multiple Arena sites in some games. Also, sometimes it doesn't zoom in on the province (although that may be only when score graphs are turned off or you haven't discovered the province in question, I'm not sure).

Basically, no there's no way to tell.

-Max

Edratman · #2 August 7th, 2008, 01:36 PM

I can confirm that multiple arenas do occur. (One of my current games even has 2 arenas in the same province.)

When there are multiple arenas the arena that is chosen seems to be the one closest to the center of the map. In the cases whee I know there are multiple arenas, I have never seen the match change from the initial site. Nor have I seen it change provinces at any time.

I have never seen it fail to zoom in on the province.

MaxWilson · #3 August 7th, 2008, 01:43 PM

I just posted a trn in the Fear Mechanics thread showing that units in melee can recover Morale. In that trn, the arena does not zoom in on a province before fights.

-Max

archaeolept · #4 August 8th, 2008, 10:25 AM

when you hire a merc that someone else has, it will come still w/ the order for what it was doing (other than move)... including build fortress

you can then cancel the fort and get your money back...

Nikelaos · #5 August 8th, 2008, 11:37 AM

did you know that?

spells like hellbind heart and enslave can be used in the arena deathmatch competitions. A converted commander may even take over and fight instead of the commander who converted him in later fights of the same competition. However even if you win, only the commander you chose to fight in the arena deathmatch will return alive but if a converted commander wins he will still gain the experience of winning a deathmatch competition (even though he dies afterwards) not only is converting commanders a great way to win arena deathmatches and get rid of some great foreign warriors but you can use ritual rebirth to bring back your converted winner or any other converted commander in the hall of fame.

MaxWilson · #6 August 9th, 2008, 02:18 AM

...Forge of the Ancients counts BEFORE forge bonus? If the forge bonus came first, a 15% forge bonus on a 5 gem item would round down to 4 gems, and then Forge of the Ancients would halve that to 2 gems. Instead, Forge halves the cost from 5 to 2, and then a 15% bonus on top rounds down to 1.

It's also possible to forge items for free, if you can get the cost below 1. (It's almost never worth doing so, though.)

-Max

Zeldor · #7 August 9th, 2008, 06:00 AM

MaxWilson:

I am almost sure that 1 gem is minimum price, have you tested that?

Gregstrom · #8 October 8th, 2008, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

...Forge of the Ancients counts BEFORE forge bonus? If the forge bonus came first, a 15% forge bonus on a 5 gem item would round down to 4 gems, and then Forge of the Ancients would halve that to 2 gems. Instead, Forge halves the cost from 5 to 2, and then a 15% bonus on top rounds down to 1.

It's also possible to forge items for free, if you can get the cost below 1. (It's almost never worth doing so, though.)

-Max

Did you know that... that's not the whole of it?

Site bonuses to Con are also applied independently of these two - I think the order is Forge->site->hammer. And... the gem cost appears to be rounded down between each step. So you can get Rings of Wizardry for 9S, or clams for 3W1N.

Fate · #9 November 23rd, 2008, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

...Forge of the Ancients counts BEFORE forge bonus? If the forge bonus came first, a 15% forge bonus on a 5 gem item would round down to 4 gems, and then Forge of the Ancients would halve that to 2 gems. Instead, Forge halves the cost from 5 to 2, and then a 15% bonus on top rounds down to 1.

It's also possible to forge items for free, if you can get the cost below 1. (It's almost never worth doing so, though.)

-Max

Are you sure it doesn't just stack?

50% FoA + 15% hammer = 65% off of 5 gems = 1.75 rounded down to 1 gems.

and for 8 gem ring of wizardry
50% FoA + 15% hammer + 20% site bonus = 85% off of 55 gems = 8.25 rounded down to 8 gems?

I haven't actually tested any of this, but I do know that natural construction bonus (such as on dwarven smiths) stacks w/ the hammer, so I would think FoA and site bonuses would as well.

Another one:
Construction bonus from the dwarven hammer applies to the cost of rituals and even globals, like FoA and Mechanical Militia.

So you could get a 64 gem FoA and follow it with a sub-40 gem mechanical militia!