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				August 15th, 2008, 08:38 PM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by ano  XietorWhen you tell mage to retreat he always retreats be it Seraph or Theurg and there's no AI perspective in this case: he retreats because you told him to. And absolutely the same behavior is expected from Returning spell because it makes no sense if it is unpredictable. I still think it is very wrong that returning can be overridden by anything else at all.
 You may ask a hundred of players if they expect returning be different from retreat in the sense of scripting and I'm absolutely sure that more than 70% will say they should be treated in the same way.
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83% of all people believe random statistics that they read.
 
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				August 15th, 2008, 08:43 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Returning script ignored. Bug? 
 Of course, it's only my estimation. 
I created a poll  to make it more realistic, btw   . |  
	
		
	
	
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				August 15th, 2008, 08:55 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Returning script ignored. Bug? 
 I am not disagreeing on whether he ought  to retreat, I am just explaining why I think he is not retreating. 
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				August 15th, 2008, 09:00 PM
			
			
			
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		| I am not disagreeing on whether he ought to retreat, I am just explaining why I think he is not retreating. |  I understand that, of course, I just think that such behavior is not correct and not logical. 
Also, the bug this thread was opened for still seems to have some other nature because I made the exactly the same tests and golem did cast returning. |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by Xietor  Try it with an 8 hp mage. If the 8 hp mage returns every time with no pd, then my point is proven. |  a 9 hp mage. 
a 77 pt seraph 
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				 Re: Returning script ignored. Bug? 
 I had this bug in DarkParadise with an Astral Monolith and Horrors. Basically, even a Horror is not enough to prevent a script override. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Returning script ignored. Bug? 
 And that is the worst in this bug: it is unstable and unexpectable |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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