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August 26th, 2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Paralysis is overpowered.
Interesting discussion.
I have a slightly different perspective. I believe the real issue is not so much whether paralysis is too powerful, but whether astral is too powerful as a magic path - especially since Tartarians have now been nerfed. What are other players' views?
(Disclosure: I believe paralysis is not overpowered as SC's are not weak even with paralysis as it currently stands - not every nation can access astral anyway. Unstoppable SC's was the bane of Master of Magic and I am glad that Dominions have counters like paralysis and others)
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August 26th, 2008, 05:19 PM
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Re: Paralysis is overpowered.
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Originally Posted by Ming
I have a slightly different perspective. I believe the real issue is not so much whether paralysis is too powerful, but whether astral is too powerful as a magic path - especially since Tartarians have now been nerfed. What are other players' views?
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After finally messing with post-Shattered-Soul Tarts, I'd have to disagree that they were "nerfed". Yes, they have been rendered less ridiculously cost effective, for the few nations who can easily summon them en mass, AND heal them, AND GoR them. Pre-patch, every single Tart I ever summoned was just riddled with afflictions. Now, I can summon them as a Death nation that lacks Nature, and while they will all be Feebleminded, that's about all that's wrong with them (besides the Shattered Soul, of course).
Anyway, that's neither here nor there. I think that Paralyze could definitely use a reduction in duration. Halving the average hit, would make it a little more in line. Though, the CoE mechanic is interesting - though I can see how it might still upset people who are using their SCs as solo raiders, since once Paralyzed, and removed from battle - the battle would be over, and the unit completely lost.
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August 26th, 2008, 11:19 PM
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Re: Paralysis is overpowered.
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison
After finally messing with post-Shattered-Soul Tarts, I'd have to disagree that they were "nerfed". Yes, they have been rendered less ridiculously cost effective, for the few nations who can easily summon them en mass, AND heal them, AND GoR them. Pre-patch, every single Tart I ever summoned was just riddled with afflictions. Now, I can summon them as a Death nation that lacks Nature, and while they will all be Feebleminded, that's about all that's wrong with them (besides the Shattered Soul, of course).
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Thank you for your input.
I have not had the time to play around with Tarts post shattered soul. Do they not need GoR anymore? On the surface shattered soul is worse than multiple afflictions as there is no way of getting rid of it.
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August 26th, 2008, 11:36 PM
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Re: Paralysis is overpowered.
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Originally Posted by Ming
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison
After finally messing with post-Shattered-Soul Tarts, I'd have to disagree that they were "nerfed". Yes, they have been rendered less ridiculously cost effective, for the few nations who can easily summon them en mass, AND heal them, AND GoR them. Pre-patch, every single Tart I ever summoned was just riddled with afflictions. Now, I can summon them as a Death nation that lacks Nature, and while they will all be Feebleminded, that's about all that's wrong with them (besides the Shattered Soul, of course).
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Thank you for your input.
I have not had the time to play around with Tarts post shattered soul. Do they not need GoR anymore? On the surface shattered soul is worse than multiple afflictions as there is no way of getting rid of it.
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My understanding is that SS isn't really all that much worse than being insane, and LA Ry'leh is considered one of the top nations.
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August 26th, 2008, 11:47 PM
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Re: Paralysis is overpowered.
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My understanding is that SS isn't really all that much worse than being insane, and LA Ry'leh is considered one of the top nations.
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Thank you for your comment. Point taken
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