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View Poll Results: Would you break a long-term NAP before its too late to stop a clear winner?
Yep, watching the game go by is silly. 38 61.29%
Nope, I'll keep my word till the bitter end. 23 37.10%
I'd flip a coin 1 1.61%
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 10:58 AM
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If there are other teams still in the game and fighting Ano's team why not send money, gems and equipment to them to slow Ano up instead? Why is breaking the treaty that his team proposed now acceptable?
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 11:36 AM

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There are no hard and fast "rules" regarding NAPs - it's all convention. You can and should be as honourable or treacherous as you like. The trade-off for the advantage of backstabbing is that your reputation, both within the game you're playing and in the general community will suffer. It's up to players to decide whether to take that risk - personally, I think the long term damage is far worse than the short-term gain, but that's me. If players want NAPs to be utterly binding in a game, they should make it a condition of play during the set-up.

The situation listed here is just about the only situation in serious play where I'd think it's not dishonourable to break a NAP. If an opponent is so close to victory that there isn't time to cancel the NAP, by all means launch a sneak attack. You're playing to win, after all. Anyone in the position of being about to win should really be prepared for everyone left to attack at any moment to stop them.
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 11:45 AM
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Huh, I voted "yep!" but after reading this thread, I see that I misunderstood the expression : "to break a NAP".

In my mind, if I have a NAP 5 with a player and if I say : "end of the NAP, I'll attack you in 5 turns", that I called breaking the NAP. Just a normal thing. I voted "yes" with that meaning in mind.

Now, I see that "breaking a NAP" would mean here me telling the guy : "Hello ! We have a NAP 5 but I'll attack you in 2 turns anyway because [whatever]".
Here, my answer is definitely : no, I don't break any NAP because it's useless to make promises if you don't respect your word. If you've been waiting for too long before putting an end to the NAP, then it's your fault and you deserve to loose

So : no matter what the context is : a pact has to be respected. If you don't, nobody will trust you later. Period.

And please count -1 yes and +1 no on your poll.
BTW, I am amazed and worried by the number of positive votes...
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BTW, I am amazed and worried by the number of positive votes...
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