OT: Star Wars Episode 2...

Will · #1 May 19th, 2002, 03:16 AM

I've been thinking about some of the criticism for the movie, and I have a theory on why many fans don't like this movie. All of them are going in expecting A New Hope or The Empire Strikes Back. There are multiple references about how things were "better" in some other movie, and I think it's gotten to the point where anything new isn't tolerated.

I believe the same thing happened with fans of SEIII after Aaron released the SEIV demo. They all wanted their right-click menus back. Some complained about the new production model. Playing styles had to be adjusted... "how can we play with only twelve research and twelve intel projects?". They wanted another SEIII, and SEIV was something new.

Just a theory

Atrocities · #2 May 19th, 2002, 05:17 AM

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I've been thinking about some of the criticism for the movie, and I have a theory on why many fans don't like this movie. All of them are going in expecting A New Hope or The Empire Strikes Back. There are multiple references about how things were "better" in some other movie, and I think it's gotten to the point where anything new isn't tolerated.

Nice guess, but in my case wrong.

I will tell you why I am dissapointed by Ep2 when compared to Ep 4 thru 6. Simply put, no character development and way bad acting. Basically put, no Han Solo, or Chewbacca or Bad guy that I loved to hate. Ep 4 thru 6 aside from some bad acting, had good character development from Luke Skywalker thur Darth Vader. Ep 1 had Qui Gon Gin (sp) and that was it. Ep 2 has no one of interest until the middle of the movie. We were introduced to the adult Anikin in an elevator for crying out loud. Oh ya, that really peaked my interest in the character. The only two or three characters that were worth a damn were Jingo Fett, Count Dukoo, Bobo Fett and too some small degree Obi One, the rest were uninspiring at best.

When it came to the story, it lacked detail. Correction, it lacked attention to detail. There is a differance. There may have been a few plot holes, but those could be over looked for now. The attention to detail and uninteresting character development is what turned me off to this movie. It opened like a really bad book, and ended without a climax scene. It just doesn't have the attention to detail that one would expect. Hell Ep1 even had better attion to detail. Its the lack of the small stuff that gets you into trouble with a movie. Weak endings, poor character development, un-interesting beginning, and a lack luster plot that could have been far more than what it had become, easilly spell doom for a movie.

I also hate the fact that we were told Jar Jar dies in this movie, and he ends up living. That is unexcuseable!

[ May 19, 2002, 04:28: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

HEMAN · #3 May 19th, 2002, 08:34 AM

Saw it friday,tho i like the movie better then ESP 1 ,I will see it again just for the clone battle & the litte green guy fight... NOTE; made me want to go to bathroom, . You guys are right?? there should of been more of chacter identy,like names of master jedi es, etc. I cant remember where, b

ut all MASTER jedi es have a unique force ability traight,which shouldve been in movie,Besides that wind push me back . I dont know his name but he has a long neck and can stop a persons heart. Also a lady jedy that can leap like a frog & swing attack .

tesco samoa · #4 May 19th, 2002, 05:15 PM

Another problem I think is that were waiting ( the older people here) for some of that magic spark to appear. ( You know the one where you just smile at the screen and get sucked right into to movie and say 'yeaaaaaaaaaaaa') and it is not there.

The backgrounds are amazing. I just wish that attention to detail was included in the foreground.

Captain Kwok · #5 May 19th, 2002, 05:24 PM

I'm going to see it in about an hour. I have no expectations except to see some big spaceships...that is all I hope for. I have never expected Star Wars to be any more than that.

tesco samoa · #6 May 19th, 2002, 07:28 PM

And the sound of the ships is fantastic. Especially when they enter planet atmosphere.

You will like the sound that the mines make.

Notice how I do not give away anything about the story

geoschmo · #7 May 19th, 2002, 07:47 PM

I would be interested to hear along with people's opinions of whether or not they liked Episode 2 (and 1 for that matter) how old they are and whether or not they saw the original when it hit the big screen 20 years ago.

I have a theory, and it may be wrong, that the new movies are not so bad, even in comparison to the originals. They only suffer by comparison because our expectations are so higher. When Star Wars hit in 77, nothing even close had ever been seen by anyone. I think that seeing Star Wars for the first time in 1977 was probably the closest our generation could come to the way the people first seeing movies in the early part of the century. It was that much of a step above what else was out there.

We were so blown away that we overlooked a lot of it's faults. I can remember even as a ten year old thinking Luke was a major whiner, but Han Solo was very cool. There's your awesome character development. Luke didn't really become more than a cardboard cutout till late in the Empire Strikes Back IMHO. So Annikan is right on pace, no?

And was Jar Jar Binks really any more annoying than C-3PO in the original? It's called comic relief. They are supposed to be annoying aren't they?

I think a lot of older people were expecting that same "blown away" feeling this time around. The problem is the state of the art is so much better now, because of Star Wars in large part, that that just isn't possible.

For those of you that are younger and saw Star Wars later, maybe even after movies like Aliens or other more recent sci-fi flicks, what did you think of Eps1 and 2 compared to the originals?

Geoschmo