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Old May 22nd, 2002, 08:28 AM

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Dont forget I just want to set a quick testbed. I agree thats not the best option for the AI to let it cranks ships like mad. But if its not possible to have it follow a simple behavior, how can you expect to follow a more complex one?

Here is the sample AI file:

AI State := {put all AI state here}
Num Queue Entries := 2
Entry 1 Type := Colonizer
Entry 1 Planet Per Item := 0
Entry 1 Must Have At Least := 2
Entry 2 Type := Attack Ship
Entry 2 Planet Per Item := 2
Entry 2 Must Have At Least := 2

Should have 2 colonizers, then up to 5 ships per planets. The AI dont follow this, why?
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Old May 22nd, 2002, 09:34 AM
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Are you running low on organics or radioactives?
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Greetings to the goddess of wisdom and warfare!

How many colonies did your AI empire have at this moment?
I usually work more with the "must have at least" than with the "per planet" option, using the latter more for the late game when the AI has 100-200 colonies.
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>Greetings to the goddess of wisdom and warfare!

Thanks Q, I see that you know my spheres of influence

Nope, the AI is not low in anything.

If you prefer, you can put a 'must have at least' of 150, and a 'per planet' of what you want, then run a little testbed. You will see that with no apparents reasons (I checked them all I think), the AI dont comply to the simple order of building like mad (just for the purpose of testing the file, I have never said that this was an optimal strategy).

It is like there is an override of unkown origin hardcoded... I cant think of anything as for know to solve the problem. The point is that I play with a 15% maintenance per turn with some friends in a PBEM with slightly modded AI (on construction_vehicle for instance). When I open the AI turns (with the permissions of the players) I see for ALL the AI which are in a good shape these parameters:

Huge stockpile of the 3 resources.
98 to 100% of the shipyard doing nothing.
Something like 30 to 60 attack ships, whereas the Last entry in construction vehicle ask them to have something like 5 per planets .
They have not hit there maximum maintenance percentages, most of their planets have build facilities, and still they build nothing, throwing into space hords of minerals...

This is begining to bear on us seriously, because there is no challenge. The AI have the infrastructures to maintains fleets 4 times the size of our fleets, but still they do nearly nothing.
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All I can say is that the AI does not do this in my testings. There are so many variables that it is sometimes hard to find why something is/ is not happening. I just had a chat with Aaron about a bug he could not reproduce. Turned out that the bug would only appear if the AI_Main.bmp was present in the folder even so the bug had nothing to do with graphics (it's the build units on a planet without cargo bug).
Grab an build file from the Earth Alliance, don't put all AI states in one file and try again. Maybe it helps.
And just to make sure: You are running on the 1.67 patch, aren't you?
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Athena, if you use standard SE IV gold post the savegame and perhaps someone finds the explanation. And try once to place units instead of the ships in the contruction order: does that change anything??
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Q, K126, thank you for your time.

Yes I'm running 1.67 with some adjustments (minor I would say) in the cost of facilities.

I will set a new testbed with less drastic changes in construction_vehicle, it perhaps screw somehow the AI to have such an atypic file (after I edited it).

if things seems still weird, I will post a savegame along with the modded vehicle file.

U r speaking of UEA Mephisto?
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